Thread: The Infamous Ahmadinejad "Wiped Off the Map" speech

Originally Posted by Gardener

It has already been explained to you, Bub.

I think it's beyond pure innocence now.
It was explained in the clearest way possible.

I think he seriously believes that Zionist is some form of a political ideology equal to communism, liberalism, etc.

Originally Posted by Apocalypse

He was calling for Israel's destruction in his misinterpreted speech.

However, my point is that there are countless (COUNTLESS) of other occasions when the dictator has called for Israel's destruction.

For example:

Ahmadinejad: Destroy Israel, End Crisis

It's a reference to the same speech which has been misinterpreted

Originally Posted by Gardener

It has already been explained to you, Bub.

You were talking about me and what my opinions are, according to you. That's surprising because I did not give my opinion, I try to explain Ahmadinejad's point of view.

Originally Posted by bub

It's a reference to the same speech which has been misinterpreted

Well that's just over the top.
I'm used to those dodging attempts already, but what you're doing now is insanely counter-productive.

The article in the post you've quoted and replied to right now is from August 3, 2006, referring to a speech that was made during the same time.

The "misinterpreted speech" that you keep mentioning is the "wipe off the map" speech that was made during the World without Zionism conference in Iran by Iranian dictator Mahmoud Ahmedinejad, in October 30, 2005.

I'm tired of this crap already.

Originally Posted by Apocalypse

I think it's beyond pure innocence now.
It was explained in the clearest way possible.

I think he seriously believes that Zionist is some form of a political ideology equal to communism, liberalism, etc.

It's the whole lot of them. What we are dealing with here is an article of faith rather than reason, so no amout of reason will ever break down the faith until these true believers are willing. They will see what they have been trained to see and believe what they have been trained to believe, as their embrace of this weird brand of anti-Israel/Islamist apologist brand of political correctness is so thorough as to preclude anything else.

Originally Posted by Apocalypse

You still don't get it. It's obvious.
"Communist" doesn't mean "Pro-Russia's existence".
"Zionist" means pro-Israel's existence.

There's absolutely zero doubt about Ahmad's true intentions, and he makes them clearer than the sun.
One needs to be blind to ignore the sun's rays.

You take a single misinterpreted quote which has been twisted by journalists and you think that his intentions are clear?

If you want to read serious articles about his intentions, you should read that
Top Things you Think You Know about Iran that are not True | Informed Comment

Originally Posted by bub

You were talking about me and what my opinions are, according to you. That's surprising because I did not give my opinion, I try to explain Ahmadinejad's point of view.

You're trying to misinterpret Ahmadinejad's point of view.

Originally Posted by bub

You take a single misinterpreted quote which has been twisted by journalists and you think that his intentions are clear?

And you continue with this insane counter-productivity of dodging and straw man arguments.

I've just proven you that it's not the same line that you believe has been twisted by journalists("Wipe off the map"), nor was it made during the same speech("World without Zionism" 2005), so why do you continue with this fake story?

Originally Posted by bub

You were talking about me and what my opinions are, according to you. That's surprising because I did not give my opinion, I try to explain Ahmadinejad's point of view.

No, I explained the basic REASONING necessary to understand what he meant. You have chosen to ignore reason and just go with the conformist rhetoric.

Originally Posted by Apocalypse

And you continue with this insane counter-productivity of dodging and straw man arguments.

I've just proven you that it's not the same line that you believe has been twisted by journalists("Wipe off the map"), nor was it made during the same speech("World without Zionism" 2005), so why do you continue with this fake story?

read what you post. In the article you posted, the only sentence that would show his intention to destroy Israel is

"Ahmadinejad, who has drawn international condemnation with previous calls for Israel to be wiped off the map, said the Middle East would be better off "without the existence of the Zionist regime.""

It has been shown in the article I posted in the first page of this thread that this quote is misinterpreted