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The Infamous Ahmadinejad "Wiped Off the Map" speech

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It's the whole lot of them. What we are dealing with here is an article of faith rather than reason, so no amout of reason will ever break down the faith until these true believers are willing. They will see what they have been trained to see and believe what they have been trained to believe, as their embrace of this weird brand of anti-Israel/Islamist apologist brand of political correctness is so thorough as to preclude anything else.

That word is banned under CC 'Martial Law'.

Paul
 
This article sums up the excusing folks' attempt to deny the obvious, and to recreate reality for the benefit of their controversial political opinions.
It provides a well-made analysis and shows exactly how ridiculous those claims are.


Iran's Talk of Destroying Israel Must Not Get Lost in Translation [incl. Juan Cole] - Campus Watch

Apocalypse, you may feel that just quoting Campus Watch gives you (and Gardiner) the right to dis Bub but

Critics of Campus Watch say that it is a pro-Israel lobbyist organization involved in harassing, blacklisting, or intimidating scholars critical of Israel.
[ame=http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Campus_Watch]Campus Watch - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia[/ame]

This hardly seems like the kind of unbiased authoritative thinking you have been trying to present it as.

if you can find it on the website of a notorious antisemite, it MUST be true! :roll:

Please tell me on what evidence you call this academic an antisemite
 
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Apocalypse, you may feel that just quoting Campus Watch gives you (and Gardiner) the right to dis Bub but

Campus Watch - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

This hardly seems like the kind of unbiased authoritative thinking you have been trying to present it as.
Why?
Because they say so?
You'd have to try harder, every word in that analysis is golden.
 
Please tell me on what evidence you call this academic an antisemite

His relentless hatred of Jews -- a hatred that runs so fierce that he attempts to obfuscate the statements of genocidal antisemites in order to display his solidarity with them.

But, hey -- if somebody ever comes up with a "world without Alexa" conference and says you must be wiped out, I promise I won't attempt the same incredibly hateful and dishonest ploy of attempting to comvince others they said something else, o.k.?
 
His relentless hatred of Jews -- a hatred that runs so fierce that he attempts to obfuscate the statements of genocidal antisemites in order to display his solidarity with them.

But, hey -- if somebody ever comes up with a "world without Alexa" conference and says you must be wiped out, I promise I won't attempt the same incredibly hateful and dishonest ploy of attempting to comvince others they said something else, o.k.?
I've heard he's one of those folks promoting the opinion that the Jewish lobby controls America.
 
Why?
Because they say so?
You'd have to try harder, every word in that analysis is golden.

I have made my point. I have no more to say on it at the moment.

That you liked the analysis is clear. That is suits your thinking is clear. That it is a correct analysis is certainly not shown.
 
That word is banned under CC 'Martial Law'.

Paul

Wow -- that's so awful of me , Gunner. :shock:

Heck, lying about a figure's genocidal racism while at a conference dedicated to hate absolutely PALES in comparison to my use ofthe word "apologist". What's this world coming to, anyway, when people actualy resist genocidal racism instead of nodding theirlittle heads in agreement that calling people to be wiped off the map at a conference dedicated to imagaining just that is actually something else.
 
I have made my point. I have no more to say on it at the moment.

That you liked the analysis is clear. That is suits your thinking is clear. That it is a correct analysis is certainly not shown.
Exactly, you have nothing to say, you cannot debunk it and you show it better than I could ever wish to.

That you didn't like the analysis is clear, that it doesn't suit your thinking is clear, that it is a correct analysis is a fact standing still and you have failed in your inherently useless attempt to discredit it.

That comment shows exactly what the article is speaking about, and you've proven its point.
I rest my case.
 
I've heard he's one of those folks promoting the opinion that the Jewish lobby controls America.


That dastardly lobby again!

When are people ever going to learn that Islamists are the good guys!?
 
Exactly, you have nothing to say, you cannot debunk it and you show it better than I could ever wish to.

That you didn't like the analysis is clear, that it doesn't suit your thinking is clear, that it is a correct analysis is a fact standing still and you have failed in your inherently useless attempt to discredit it.

That comment shows exactly what the article is speaking about, and you've proven its point.
I rest my case.

there was no analysis within that article
it was another in a series of pro-israeli propaganda pieces trying to assert a'jad intended to say something very different than what was actually said
the author recognized and then immediately ignored that a'jad's statement was found to have been mistranslated
debunk-the-idiot is your side's version of the hack-a-mole game; anything to keep the attention away from the wrongs israel is committing
 
:lol:
there was no analysis within that article
it was another in a series of pro-israeli propaganda pieces trying to assert a'jad intended to say something very different than what was actually said
the author recognized and then immediately ignored that a'jad's statement was found to have been mistranslated
debunk-the-idiot is your side's version of the hack-a-mole game; anything to keep the attention away from the wrongs israel is committing

I see our friendly, neighborhood, Iranian schill is back. Yea, your boy is all about peace and love, right? :lol: He is a raving lunatic that must, at all costs, be stopped.
 
If it were just the Mistranslated speech, one could dismiss it.
As in that speech he also mentions the the now Gone USSR and Shah, and there was no War or bombing invlolved in their "destruction"; just regime change.
So in his defense (forgive me), he did make allusion to non-War removal of several entities.

His Myriad of other statements on Israel, and just as troubling, the Holocaust, are still grave concerns.
As are his Apocalyptic Shiite religous beliefs and the coming of the Mahdi.
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As in that speech he also mentions the the now Gone USSR and Shah, and there was no War or bombing invlolved in their "destruction"; just regime change.
So in his defense (forgive me), he did make allusion to non-War removal of several entities.

I'm glad you understood it. If you want a further analysis I advise you to read the first article I posted here.
 
Why do you people give a ****?

Ahmadinejad's actual power can only be measured by devices calibrated to detect tiny amounts.

Him talking about anything frankly doesn't matter.
 
If it were just the Mistranslated speech, one could dismiss it.
As in that speech he also mentions the the now Gone USSR and Shah, and there was no War or bombing invlolved in their "destruction"; just regime change.
So in his defense (forgive me), he did make allusion to non-War removal of several entities.

His Myriad of other statements on Israel, and just as troubling, the Holocaust, are still grave concerns.
As are his Apocalyptic Shiite religous beliefs and the coming of the Mahdi.
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The USSR was completely destroyed.

Could you please describe to me an Israeli state led by a non-Zionist government?
I simply am not able to imagine it from some reason.
 
there was no analysis within that article
it was another in a series of pro-israeli propaganda pieces trying to assert a'jad intended to say something very different than what was actually said
the author recognized and then immediately ignored that a'jad's statement was found to have been mistranslated
debunk-the-idiot is your side's version of the hack-a-mole game; anything to keep the attention away from the wrongs israel is committing
Uh-huh.
Now unless you're able to debunk the analysis itself, and not what you believe to be its intention, then I don't see the importance of your post here.
 
Uh-huh.
Now unless you're able to debunk the analysis itself, and not what you believe to be its intention, then I don't see the importance of your post here.

please point out the analysis within the post you believe needs debunking
i could find no analysis within it
 
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You know what? I've changed my mind. Half of you are making personal attacks; the other half are misrepresenting information. I'll end this now.

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