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Old 09-24-09, 10:47 AM   #41
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When you see it mapped out like that, it's actually kind of frightening.
Makes you wonder why people even stay there.
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Re: Can anyone explain . . . (Israel)

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I actually favor a three state solution, myself.
I believe the problem here is that both sides are not equally willing to compromise.

I don't think most palestinians would accept this as a final solution, but maybe a temporary one, to strengthen their own position. As has been seen before, extremist groups within are more than willing to use territorial concessions as platforms for attack into israeli cities and as political leverage to justify the need for further concessions (It's a very small area, with a dense population).
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Re: Can anyone explain . . . (Israel)

1. They flaunt International Law

2. They mistreat Palestinians living in Israel

3. The brutalize Palestinians living in the occupied territories.

4. Less than a year ago they killed 480 Palestinian children alone in response to rocket attacks that killed 8 Israelis over a two year span.

That's mainly it.

If you wish for examples of this I can post videos of them shooting handcuffed prisoners, shooting a child dead in his Father's arms while he was waiving a flag of surrender, throwing rocks at Palestinan school children, calling Obama a n345gger, or beating 90 year old men with clubs just for the hell of it...............and that's just for starters.

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Old 09-24-09, 11:08 AM   #44
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calling Obama a n345gger.
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Its location, perhaps.



The Muslims have worked so hard in making one big Muslims continent when Israel showed up in the middle - and the rest is history.
When you see it mapped out like that, it's actually kind of frightening.
The dark green bits in Africa are wrong - some of those countries have an equal Christian / Muslim population or even (Ghana / Togo etc) have more Christians than Muslims. I've lived and worked in lots of parts of West Africa and from 1st hand experience can say the map is wrong.
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The dark green bits in Africa are wrong - some of those countries have an equal Christian / Muslim population or even (Ghana / Togo etc) have more Christians than Muslims. I've lived and worked in lots of parts of West Africa and from 1st hand experience can say the map is wrong.
It's only wrong in a few pixels, you can see clearly that they haven't went into extreme details, but it's not like they've spilled green color all over the area and received this result either.
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The dark green bits in Africa are wrong - some of those countries have an equal Christian / Muslim population or even (Ghana / Togo etc) have more Christians than Muslims. I've lived and worked in lots of parts of West Africa and from 1st hand experience can say the map is wrong.
Ethiopia is also majority Christian with a large Muslim population.
I agree, that map is not accurate.

If we will be colouring every country with Muslims in it then we may as well turn green most of the world.
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A huge difference.
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Re: Can anyone explain . . . (Israel)

Yes. There is a telling video out of drunken partying right wing Jewish kids just laughing it up for the camera.

You learn so much about the mentality of certain factions when they are free to speak in a relaxed atmosphere. Much of it comes from their Parents of course.

Israeli apologists have this pretense that they're soo much more civilized than Palestinians and are so very serious about racism and bigotry because of what was done to them in the Holocaust.

There were actually t-shirts being sold by Israeli soldiers that depicted a pregnant Palestinian women in the cross
hairs of a sniper rifle....and said something along the lines of "two for one".

This is the humor of hardcore right wing Israelis and they control much of the debate.

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Yes. There is a telling video out of drunken partying right wing Jewish kids just laughing it up for the camera.

You learn so much about the mentality of certain factions when they are free to speak in a relaxed atmosphere. Much of it comes from their Parents of course.

Israeli apologists have this pretense that they're soo much more civilized than Palestinians and are so very serious about racism and bigotry because of what was done to them in the Holocaust.
I've just learned so much about your mentality, that apparently you would take a video of a few Jewish kids (And I haven't seen this video yet) who call Obama a nigger, as a basis for a generalization of an entire nation - the total opposite from the Liberal thinking that separates individual actions from the collective.

You only do Israel good when you stay on the pro-Palestinian side, you and your disgusting generalizations.
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