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Old 07-20-08, 04:01 PM   #11 (permalink)
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Iran isn't an unstable country though... That's what's most problematic. Iran is a very shrewd nation and unlike Pakistan, they have a handle on their society and don't allow rogue elements, like Al Qeada in Pakistan, to function within their borders.

Through Hebollah, they encourage militancy, but the Revolutionary Guard is a well managed military that maintains a clear line of command, without getting the nation of Iran dirty.

They are a threat, because they are not unstable; they are fully capable of forming a coordinated effort.
In any case they need to be stopped no matter what the cost.

Iran is a nation of terrorists ... that must be stopped. A good first step would be to find and execute the leadership of Hezbollah. This will prevent Iran from preaching militant behavior.

We can then begin working on helping the Iranian people to rebel against their government. Eventually, the Ayetoluetbowl will be diposed!

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In any case they need to be stopped no matter what the cost.

Iran is a nation of terrorists ... that must be stopped. A good first step would be to find and execute the leadership of Hezbollah. This will prevent Iran from preaching militant behavior.

We can then begin working on helping the Iranian people to rebel against their government. Eventually, the Ayetoluetbowl will be diposed!

The U.S. and the CIA havent participated in any government assasinations since the 1960's and it is strictly against U.S. foreign law, and that includes militant groupslike Hezbollah.



In simpler terms, THE US WONT OVERTHROW A GOVERNMENT UNLESS IT DIRECTLY BENEFITS THEM!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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The U.S. and the CIA havent participated in any government assasinations since the 1960's and it is strictly against U.S. foreign law, and that includes militant groupslike Hezbollah.



In simpler terms, THE US WONT OVERTHROW A GOVERNMENT UNLESS IT DIRECTLY BENEFITS THEM!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

And you know this how?

From service in the military? I doubt it.

From experience in the field as a civilian adviser? Not a chance in hell.

While you are correct about the policy described you are quite mistaken about the reason for that policy.

I'll give you a hint ... the actual reasoning is very cold war related.

I will leave it to you to figure out ... if you can!

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I do not agree with sanctions that bring a nation to economic ruin. All you do exacerbate the social issues that drive the growth of extremist groups. Cutting off specific goods would be better than an absolute economic blockade of the country. That is the same as declaring open war on the population. The Guardian Council will let the innocent suffer and die first in order to maintain their control of the population.

We need to press internationally based solutions, support the internal revolution that is underway, but stand ready to strike if necessary.
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I do not agree with sanctions that bring a nation to economic ruin. All you do exacerbate the social issues that drive the growth of extremist groups. Cutting off specific goods would be better than an absolute economic blockade of the country. That is the same as declaring open war on the population. The Guardian Council will let the innocent suffer and die first in order to maintain their control of the population.

We need to press internationally based solutions, support the internal revolution that is underway, but stand ready to strike if necessary.
Indeed.

You raise a very valid point.

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The USA, Russia,and Israel are the greatest sources of nuclear danger and proliferation in the world today. In fact, Iran got started in its nuclear power project by the USA under the Shah. It is nowhere near any weapon, according to accepted authorities such as the IAEA. This will not stop warmongering neoCons and ZioCons who want their oil to keep cranking out anti-Iranian propaganda. Iran has invaded noboby, but was invaded by US ally Saddam Hussein. It was attacked by the CIA who installed the terrorist dictator Shah Reza, and has the right to defend itself from proven agressors. The US is the only nuclear power that has actually used nukes, a crime against humanity.

"Secure supplies of energy are essential to our
prosperity and security. The concentration of 65
percent of the world's known oil reserves in the
Persian Gulf means we must continue to ensure reliable
access to competitively priced oil and a prompt,
adequate response to any major oil supply
disruption."
: from 'National Security Strategy of the
United States', White House publication, March 1990

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The USA, Russia,and Israel are the greatest sources of nuclear danger and proliferation in the world today. In fact, Iran got started in its nuclear power project by the USA under the Shah. It is nowhere near any weapon, according to accepted authorities such as the IAEA. This will not stop warmongering neoCons and ZioCons who want their oil to keep cranking out anti-Iranian propaganda. Iran has invaded noboby, but was invaded by US ally Saddam Hussein. It was attacked by the CIA who installed the terrorist dictator Shah Reza, and has the right to defend itself from proven agressors. The US is the only nuclear power that has actually used nukes, a crime against humanity.

"Secure supplies of energy are essential to our
prosperity and security. The concentration of 65
percent of the world's known oil reserves in the
Persian Gulf means we must continue to ensure reliable
access to competitively priced oil and a prompt,
adequate response to any major oil supply
disruption.": from 'National Security Strategy of the
United States', White House publication, March 1990


1. .. for the 34123543623456256 ****ing time... the weapons used in WWII WERE NOT NUCLEAR WEAPONS. IF you don't know what you're talking about, DO NOT TALK.

2. We learned our lesson and never used atomic weapons again.

3. Japan attacked the US first, which instigated the conflict the led to them bombed. Therefore, no war crime was committed. This is just another piece of obsurd liberal rhetoric.

4. Israel has NEVER done anything with those weapons and is only a danger to those who would attack her soil (even then Israel has responded with conventional weapons). Again ... claiming Israel is a nuke threat is liberal propaganda that feeds the outright stupidity of the mindless terrorist hordes.

5. Of all the countries that are nuclear, the USAS is the LEAST dangerous because we know what happens when they are used. To say otherwise is just plain ignorant.
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