"Khatami 'has insulted Khomeini'" - Remarkable!

bhkad · 06-01-08, 08:19 AM

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Khatami 'has insulted Khomeini'
Gulfnews: Khatami 'has insulted Khomeini'

05/09/2008 07:07 PM | By Anna Fifield and Najmeh Bozorgmehr, Financial Times

Tehran: Iranian politicians have become embroiled in a dispute over the foundations of the Islamic Republic, centring on what Ayatollah Ruhollah Khomeini, the republic's founder, meant 30 years ago when he talked of "exporting the revolution".

The debate was sparked when Mohammad Khatami, a former president, said Iran was never meant to "take up arms" to spread its ideals. His suggestion comes amid allegations that Tehran is supporting Shia militias in Iraq and is encouraging Hezbollah in Lebanon, as part of a strategy to destabilise the Middle East.

"What did Imam Khomeini mean by exporting the revolution?" the reformist Khatami, who retains significant support in Iran, especially among young people, asked in a speech to students.

"Did he mean that we take up arms, that we blow up places in other nations and we create groups to carry out sabotage in other countries? The imam was vehemently against this and was confronting it."

His comments sparked a furious reaction among conservatives, who accused Khatami of making unpatriotic comments.

Gulfnews: Khatami 'has insulted Khomeini'

This is a remarkable act of courage on the part of Khatami.

He is challenging the Iranian campaign of global aggression and conquest, which is the very hallmark of Ahmadinejad's Presidency.

Keep your eyes peeled for news about Khatami and the crowds he may be attracting with his non-aggressive views.

There are more than a couple of posters who have sought to impress upon us how much the Iranian people like America and do not support the hard liners in Tehran.

NOW is the time for them to stand up for Khatami's ideas.

But now is also the time for the Western press to run with this story but the MSM hasn't made any mention of it that I've seen or heard. People in America should be out in the streets protesting in support of Khatami but there has been zero notice taken on the part of the Western press.

John1234 · 06-01-08, 12:48 PM

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Originally Posted by bhkad

But now is also the time for the Western press to run with this story but the MSM hasn't made any mention of it that I've seen or heard. People in America should be out in the streets protesting in support of Khatami but there has been zero notice taken on the part of the Western press.

Well... I doubt the Left will run it because there are no dead children involved and it is not against Bush or McCain.

And the Right will do all it can to hide it because it goes against the "All Muslims want to kill us" propaganda they have been spewing.

So its easy to see why its a dead story.

VTA · 06-01-08, 02:13 PM

I read this when it happened and wasn't surprised to see it die a modest death. Moderation doesn't make headlines.

History is probably rife with moderate voices being ignored, as lunatics rush headlong into disaster.

Jenin · 06-01-08, 02:31 PM

bhkad, thanks for bringing it to our attention.

Iran is not on a "campaign of global aggression and conquest". Iran has not invaded a single nation since it's founding. History proves the USA and Britain being the constant aggressors against Iran, whether with overturning a democratic government and reinstating a puppet dictator or other intelligence operations aimed at destabilizing the nation and wreaking havoc.

As Khatimi rightly points out, it is the united states that occupies Iraq. He should be listened to, and his wisdom can help Iran improve it's relations with the world. He wants the best for his nation, is a moderate politician. Because he is against hardline calls for greater confrontation with USA does not mean he is for Iran's capitulation to hypocritical and unfair american demands. Go Khatemi. Go Iran

bhkad · 06-01-08, 09:01 PM

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Originally Posted by Jenin

bhkad, thanks for bringing it to our attention.

Iran is not on a "campaign of global aggression and conquest". Iran has not invaded a single nation since it's founding. History proves the USA and Britain being the constant aggressors against Iran, whether with overturning a democratic government and reinstating a puppet dictator or other intelligence operations aimed at destabilizing the nation and wreaking havoc.

As Khatimi rightly points out, it is the united states that occupies Iraq. He should be listened to, and his wisdom can help Iran improve it's relations with the world. He wants the best for his nation, is a moderate politician. Because he is against hardline calls for greater confrontation with USA does not mean he is for Iran's capitulation to hypocritical and unfair american demands. Go Khatemi. Go Iran

But former FBI Director, Louis Freeh says that the Clinton Administration was mistaken in thinking Khatami was a moderate.

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Khobar Towers
The Clinton administration left many stones unturned.
by LOUIS J. FREEH
Sunday, June 25, 2006 12:01 a.m. EDT

Ten years ago today, acting under direct orders from senior Iranian government leaders, the Saudi Hezbollah detonated a 25,000-pound TNT bomb that killed 19 U.S. airmen in their dormitory at Khobar Towers in Dhahran, Saudi Arabia. The blast wave destroyed Building 131 and grievously wounded hundreds of additional Air Force personnel. It also killed an unknown number of Saudi civilians in a nearby park.

The 19 Americans murdered were members of the 4,404th Wing, who were risking their lives to enforce the no-fly zone over southern Iraq. This was a U.N.-mandated mission after the 1991 Gulf War to stop Saddam Hussein from killing his Shiite people. The Khobar victims, along with the courageous families and friends who mourn them this weekend in Washington, deserve our respect and honor. More importantly, they must be remembered, because American justice has still been denied.

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In their only bungled attempt to support the FBI, a letter from the president intended for Iran's President Mohammad Khatami, asking for "help" on the Khobar case, was sent to the Omanis, who had direct access to Mr. Khatami. This was done without advising either the FBI or the Saudis who were exposed in the letter as providing help to the Americans. We only found out about the letter because it was misdelivered to the spiritual leader, Ayatollah Ali Khamenei, who then publicly denounced the U.S. This was an embarrassment for the Saudis who had been fully cooperating with the FBI by providing direct evidence of Iranian involvement. Both Saudi Prince Bandar and Interior Minister Prince Nayef, who had put themselves and their government at great risk to help the FBI, were now undermined by America's president.

The Clinton administration was set on "improving" relations with what it mistakenly perceived to be a moderate Iranian president. But it also wanted to accrue the political mileage of proclaiming to the world, and to the 19 survivor families, that America was aggressively pursuing the bombers.

The Wall Street Journal Online - Extra

Three birds with one post.

Clinton. Your assertion that Iran has been harmless and blameless throughout the years. And Iran, itself.

And those crafty Iranians may be trying to get us to believe, once again, that Khatami is moderate.

More than one Westerner has been fooled by Middle Eastern intrigue throughout the years.

Vader · 06-01-08, 11:17 PM

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Originally Posted by Jenin

bhkad, thanks for bringing it to our attention.

Iran is not on a "campaign of global aggression and conquest". Iran has not invaded a single nation since it's founding. History proves the USA and Britain being the constant aggressors against Iran, whether with overturning a democratic government and reinstating a puppet dictator or other intelligence operations aimed at destabilizing the nation and wreaking havoc.

This is the islam-o-nazi propaganda that was used to encourge the brainwashed masses to attack democracy and embrace terrorist ideals.

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Originally Posted by Jenin

As Khatimi rightly points out, it is the united states that occupies Iraq. He should be listened to, and his wisdom can help Iran improve it's relations with the world. He wants the best for his nation, is a moderate politician. Because he is against hardline calls for greater confrontation with USA does not mean he is for Iran's capitulation to hypocritical and unfair american demands. Go Khatemi. Go Iran

Hypocritical? Coming from a supporter of a government that hung a 15 year-old girl from crane because she ALLEGEDLY comitted an act that is opposite the facist, nazi version of Islam that runs the facist state of Iran.

These are people who knowingly fund terrorists in Iraq, Palestine, and Lebanon.

There is NOTHING hypocritical or unfair about preventing the world's foremost state sponsor of terror from obtaining nuclear technology. The opposite argument on this point was invented by the terrorists, and the hordes of brainwashed people who support them, in effort to cloud the issue of a terrorist nation having nuclear technology.

In terms of what is best for Iran, in the eyes of the Mullahs and the Ayetolietbowl, is for the current goverment to lie, cheat, steal, and muder children while maintaining an oppressive regieme that preaches hate while continually arming terrorists to fight proxy wars against the United States, Israel, and anybody else who might get in the way of their Islam-o-nazi tyranny.

One hint, Jenin, the lies your clerics spew are NOT the truth, they were NEVER the truth, and they will NEVER be the truth. In fact, it will never be anything more then that misguided ranting of nazi islam-o-zealot who has been programmed from birth to hate Americans, Jews, and anybody else that disagrees with the continous, non-yeilding, campaign of religious terror that has overtaken the mainstream islamic world.

As such, requiring such unsavory reigemes, such as Iran, Syria, and various other pro-terrorist states to cease nuclear activities is perfectly reasonable. In fact, it's reasonable, preferable, and important to the security of the free world that states like those mentioned above are NEVER allowed to have nuclear toys of any kind.

Anything else invites terrorist states to arm terrorist factions with nuclear weapons that will be used to carry out mass-murders in the name of Allah and Islam.

Since this scenario is unacceptable to everyone in the world except the terrorists, their brainwashed supporters, and a few thousand consfused (liberal-extremists) sympathizers and or apologists, it is therefore, reasonable, fair, and extremely important to prevent Iran, Syria, and every other middle-eastern, far-eastern, or similarly located terrorist country from aquiring nuclear technology of ANY kind.

I know this makes the islam-o-nazis and their supporters/apologist mad; however, that is irrelevent. Continued world stability and a state of semi-peacful existence requires that terrorists not be allowed access to WMDs.

Such is the truth -- even though the terrorists and their zealot followers will deny it.

Vader · 06-09-08, 04:14 PM

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Originally Posted by Vader

This is the islam-o-nazi propaganda that was used to encourge the brainwashed masses to attack democracy and embrace terrorist ideals.

Hypocritical? Coming from a supporter of a government that hung a 15 year-old girl from crane because she ALLEGEDLY comitted an act that is opposite the facist, nazi version of Islam that runs the facist state of Iran.

These are people who knowingly fund terrorists in Iraq, Palestine, and Lebanon.

There is NOTHING hypocritical or unfair about preventing the world's foremost state sponsor of terror from obtaining nuclear technology. The opposite argument on this point was invented by the terrorists, and the hordes of brainwashed people who support them, in effort to cloud the issue of a terrorist nation having nuclear technology.

In terms of what is best for Iran, in the eyes of the Mullahs and the Ayetolietbowl, is for the current goverment to lie, cheat, steal, and muder children while maintaining an oppressive regieme that preaches hate while continually arming terrorists to fight proxy wars against the United States, Israel, and anybody else who might get in the way of their Islam-o-nazi tyranny.

One hint, Jenin, the lies your clerics spew are NOT the truth, they were NEVER the truth, and they will NEVER be the truth. In fact, it will never be anything more then that misguided ranting of nazi islam-o-zealot who has been programmed from birth to hate Americans, Jews, and anybody else that disagrees with the continous, non-yeilding, campaign of religious terror that has overtaken the mainstream islamic world.

As such, requiring such unsavory reigemes, such as Iran, Syria, and various other pro-terrorist states to cease nuclear activities is perfectly reasonable. In fact, it's reasonable, preferable, and important to the security of the free world that states like those mentioned above are NEVER allowed to have nuclear toys of any kind.

Anything else invites terrorist states to arm terrorist factions with nuclear weapons that will be used to carry out mass-murders in the name of Allah and Islam.

Since this scenario is unacceptable to everyone in the world except the terrorists, their brainwashed supporters, and a few thousand consfused (liberal-extremists) sympathizers and or apologists, it is therefore, reasonable, fair, and extremely important to prevent Iran, Syria, and every other middle-eastern, far-eastern, or similarly located terrorist country from aquiring nuclear technology of ANY kind.

I know this makes the islam-o-nazis and their supporters/apologist mad; however, that is irrelevent. Continued world stability and a state of semi-peacful existence requires that terrorists not be allowed access to WMDs.

Such is the truth -- even though the terrorists and their zealot followers will deny it.

It's been at least a week since this was posted and Jenin hasn't had the ball-balls to respond.

Clearly --- he cannot defeat the truth.

Jenin · 06-09-08, 04:31 PM

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Originally Posted by Vader

It's been at least a week since this was posted and Jenin hasn't had the ball-balls to respond.

Clearly --- he cannot defeat the truth.

Respond to what?

niftydrifty · 06-09-08, 04:35 PM

anybody remember this?

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"Killing of people, in any place and with any kind of weapons…. carried out by any organization, country or individual is condemned. ... It makes no difference whether such massacres happen in Hiroshima, Nagasaki, Qana, Sabra, Shatila, Deir Yassin, Bosnia, Kosovo, Iraq or in New York and Washington." - Ayatollah Ali Khamene'i, Supreme jurist-ruler of Iran, September 16, 2001.

Jenin · 06-09-08, 04:37 PM

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anybody remember this?

shhhhhhhh.....

they will get upset now.... tell you how theyre just terrorist muzzies that kill homos right and left and dont like Israel....