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Old 07-29-08, 03:09 PM   #51 (permalink)
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Clearly you are as conservative and George H.W. Bush is liberal.
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Old 07-29-08, 07:57 PM   #52 (permalink)
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You seem to advocate death penalty for babies if they are not raised "the free american way". Is that your definition of "conservative"?
No, I am an advocate for ending the brainwashing of little school children.

Especially in countries where Jihad is part of the curriculum.
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No, I am an advocate for ending the brainwashing of little school children.

Especially in countries where Jihad is part of the curriculum.
There is a difference in advocating change of education and supporting their execution.

Also, what would you say about a change in american military education in order to reduce the numbers of antisocial disorders ?
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There is a difference in advocating change of education and supporting their execution.

Also, what would you say about a change in american military education in order to reduce the numbers of antisocial disorders ?
To a certain extent this is already occurring.

I don't want the children executed ... but I cannot say the same for the terrorist zealots who have been using elementary schools to indoctrinate little children into the world of terrorist islam.

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Re: Why I cant respect Palestinian haters.

What would happen if the Jews laid down their weapons.

What would happen if the Palestinian laid down their weapons.

In the first scenario the Jews would be wiped out.

In the second scenario their would be peace.
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who told you that piece of propaganda? It's the same thing Nazis said about the lower races in Russia in order to take entire villages out.

And "israel does not target children" ?? Israel has been killing hundreds of children every year!

You seem to the model of an american propaganda victim.
You have offered no evidence of Israel targeting children, yet continue to spew this lie. You are a classic example of anti-Israeli propaganda.
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Biography of Walid Shoebat

Born in Bethlehem of Judea, Walid's grandfather was the Muslim Mukhtar (chieftain) of Beit Sahour-Bethlehem (The Shepherd's Fields) and a friend of Haj-Ameen Al-Husseni, the Grand Mufti of Jerusalem and notorious friend of Adolf Hitler.

Walid's great grandfather, Abdullah Ali Awad-Allah, was also a fighter and close associate of both Abdul Qader and Haj Amin Al-Husseini, who led the Palestinians against Israel. Walid lived through and witnessed Israel’s Six Day War while living in Jericho.

As a young man, he became a member of the Palestinian Liberation Organization, and participated in acts of terror and violence against Israel, and was later imprisoned in the Russian Compound, Jerusalem's central prison for incitement and violence against Israel.

After his release, he continued his life of violence and rioting in Bethlehem and the Temple Mount. After entering the U.S, he worked as a counselor for the Arab Student Organization at Loop College in Chicago and continued his anti-Israel activities.

In 1993, Walid studied the Tanach (Jewish Bible) in a challenge to convert his wife to Islam. Six months later, after intense study, Walid realized that everything he had been taught about Jews was a lie. Convinced he was on the side of evil, he became an advocate for his former enemy.

Driven by a deep passion to heal his own soul, and to bring the truth about the Jews and Israel to the world, Walid shed his former life and his work as a software engineer and set out to tirelessly bring the cause of Israel to tens of thousands of people throughout the world: churches and synagogues, civic groups, government leaders and media.

Walid has written several online books including "Dear Muslim, Let Me Tell You Why I Believed" and "Israel, And The World's Mock Trial”, where he exposes anti-Semitism and the hatred of Jews in both the Islamic Christian and secular worlds.

Walid is an American citizen and lives in the USA with his wife and children, under this assumed name.

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Walid has spoken all over America and the world including Chile, Mexico, Canada, UK and South Africa. He has appeared on national television also all over the world including CNN, CNN International, FOX News, ITN, RTE, NBC, CBS, and ABC. He has also been featured on BBC radio 4 and 5.

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Ibrahim Abdullah (1963) is an American citizen of Palestinian descent. By self definition, he is a former PLO terrorist. He converted from Islam to Christianity in 1990 after a year of comparative studies on both religions. [1]

[edit] Personal background

According to his biography in Shoebat.com, Abdullah was born in 1963 into a Palestinian Muslim family in Dearborn, Michigan. He had a radical muslim and antisemitic upbringing which he claims, was in reality mainstream. He was brought up in the belief that "all the problems faced by the Palestinian people were caused by the Jews".

In 1981, he emigrated to Israel at the age of 18 and joined the Fatah, the main radical group associated with the PLO. He claims to have committed many hate crimes against Jewish civilians during this period. For instance, in one incident he recalls having thrown stones with other Fatah members at a car driven by an Israeli man, thereby causing it to crash into a pole. He also relates another incident in which he and his group threw molotov cocktails at a passenger bus that had a mix of both Muslims and Jews on board with complete disregard for the lives of the passengers onboard. The resulting casualties were only prevented when they failed to cause the bus to crash, as the bombs bounced off the roof of the bus.

When the Israeli army secured Ramallah, Abdullah was arrested along with several other members of his group. While in confinement at the military prison outside Ramallah, he claims to have been recruited by extreme Islamist radicals for a terrorist mission and also being given training on bomb making, gliding, surveillance and infiltrating Lebanon. Upon his conditional release, he was immediately deported to the United States and hence, was not able to carry out his mission.

In 1989, Abdullah studying the Quran for the purpose of becoming a more devout muslim but gradually became disillusioned with Islam due to the perceived inconsistenices in the Hadith versus the Quran. He later began studying the Bible, eventually converting to Christianity in 1990 after coming to the conclusion that "the bible is the only true book". His conversion was soon followed by that of his wife in 1994.[2]

He claims that he no longer bears any hatred or animosity towards the Jewish people and to have remorse for his past actions.

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Zachariah Anani was a teenage militia fighter. Born into a family of Muslim clergy in Beirut, Lebanon, he began Islamic school at age three. His grandfather and great grandfather had been imams (religious authorities), and his family expected him to carry the torch.

At 13 he joined one of the many military groups that existed in the early '70s. "All the religious fragments had their own secret militia," he says. "I was trained to fight and kill Jews, and to hate Christians and Americans."

His family was pleased with his decision because according to Islamic teaching, those who die in battle against "unbelievers" are assured of reaching heaven. Ironically, Anani faced the Israelis only once. Most of the time, though, the Muslim groups fought among themselves.
By the time he turned 16, "life meant nothing," he says.

Soon after enlisting, he made his first kill. By the time he turned 16, "life meant nothing," he says. "Every time I killed someone and two or three fighters witnessed it, they would give me a point on my chart. I carried 223 points."

Even his comrades feared him. "Although we had a sense of loyalty to each other," he says, "we were ready to take out enemies or friends." When a fanatical Muslim joined his regiment and began knocking on doors to wake the others for prayer at 3 A.M., Anani warned him: "I don't want to pray. Don't come and wake me." When he heard the knock early the next morning, Anani picked up his gun, shot him, and went back to sleep.

Anani was soon promoted to troop leader and then formed his own regiment. But "life seemed painful and empty," he says.

Anani met a Christian missionary and had a spiritual journey and converted to Christainity which became a turning point in Zak’s life.

Zak initially tried to keep secret his new faith, apart from one professor, no one at his univerisity suspected he was a Christian. But in the Muslim neighborhood where he grew up, everyone knew it. He moved to the city's Christian sector, but the persecution continued. Even his father hired assassins to kill him.

After Anani debated with a Muslim scholar in the United States, his family was attacked in Lebanon.

Finally church leaders convinced him to leave Lebanon because his presence endangered others. In 1996 Anani entered Canada as a refugee. It took another three difficult years before his wife and three children could join him. After Anani debated with a Muslim scholar in the United States, his family was attacked in Lebanon. Two of his children required surgery.

Zak has been attacked numerous times for his faith as a Christian, even in Canada.

When in Lebanon he was nearly beheaded and was only saved when an army patrol came by and the Islamist gang dispersed leaving Zak with huge wound on his neck. Zak nearly blead to death and was actually technically dead for 7 minutes before being revived.

In Canada where he now lives, his house and car have been burnt, his family attacked physically as well as Zak himself. Speaking out in a free country sometimes is not as safe as it should be.

Zachariah Anani - Another Ex- Muslim Militant Now Speaks for Israel
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I seriously hope I didn't see a reference to the Bible as any proof of Jewish ownership right to land here. If that is the case how do we reconcile native American issues here in the U.S.? To not address this while continuing to proclaim Jewish historical "right" to the land is hypocrisy of the highest level.

It's asinine to draw borders based upon religious preference of settlers. My opinion.
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