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Old 05-20-08, 11:13 PM   #31 (permalink)
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Jenin asked Red Dave a number of questions in order to illustrate the point to Red Dave. If youre going to come in on that you could at least answer the questions that Jenin addresses to Red Dave.

As for the rest of your comments, its just baiting in order to get a reaction, and hopefully from your point of view anyway, a ban.
My comments are directed at a known blanket sympathizer who continually preaches the lies he was told by his indoctrinators.

Your comments in support of him are very disturbing.
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This is simply not what you wrote.
Actually, it is. Read the context. It is precisely what I wrote.
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Old 05-24-08, 12:53 PM   #33 (permalink)
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So if they were hindus or christians or some other zionist european movement that settled and occupied palestine they would not be targetted? Are you saying beduin and durze Israeli soldiers are not also targeted? If Hamas was blood thirsty for jewish blood, then I guarentee you every synagogue in Israel would be bombed overnight. The suicide bombing went down because Hamas ended it, not because of the wall. I do not think it is dishonest. I would agree with you that religious convictions do exist.
If Hamas where killing Hindus and christians indescrimatly ild be asking the same question
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There was an agreement that Israel accepts Jewish Holocaust survivors if Germany pays for taking care of them.
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If Hamas where killing Hindus and christians indescrimatly ild be asking the same question

Im sure you would and I respect your efforts at finding balance and humanity but Jenin did answer your question quite well, i.e. Hamas is not killing Jews per se but those that take part in the campaign against their people.
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My comments are directed at a known blanket sympathizer who continually preaches the lies he was told by his indoctrinators.

Your comments in support of him are very disturbing.
Then why didnt you address his comments instead of barking at him?

Im sure you must have some excellent arguments to play.

I dont believe for a second that you are disturbed, why did you just lie there?
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Then why didnt you address his comments instead of barking at him?

Im sure you must have some excellent arguments to play.

I dont believe for a second that you are disturbed, why did you just lie there?
I didn't lie. I find any sympathizing with terrorist VERY dsiturbing. Jenin is a known terrorist supporter/sympathizer (I suspect he is a card-carrying member of Hamas) and when addressing him I have found that the only way to communicate is to pound my message past the defensive screen created by his islam-o-nazi indoctrination/brainwashing.

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Jenin asked Red Dave a number of questions in order to illustrate the point to Red Dave. If youre going to come in on that you could at least answer the questions that Jenin addresses to Red Dave.
Anyone can make an argument, that seems valid at first light, the problem is when the Hamas/Palestinian shows up in a civilian suit for the honest dialog the security guard has to put on gloves and shove his finger up its inhuman butt to check for a salami bomb.

http://www.debatepolitics.com/archiv...mas-stand.html (Hamas' Stand)

They seem to like being sodomized a lut.

This is for Jenin:

A long time ago we went for a drive and stopped out in the middle of nowhere Georgia, where cars were parked on the side of an obviously new freeway; there was one police car, and I do not remember any camera people at all. We walked up into the woods, or I should say, "little me was dragged by the hand." There were lots of people walking around, not saying anything. There were mounds of dirt all through the woods, facing in no direction, having no marker, not even a rock. All the White People seemed to be communicating without speaking, and all coming to the same conclusion. It was as if you could hear them think. One of the mounds of dirt we stopped in front of was just my size, and by this point I had figured it all out; all I had been told was, they all were black. The adults didn't think I was old enough to understand.

I see no valid argument for allowing an "Islamic" Resistance Movement, with such a gross Charter, to fill the woods when the good little Muslims look the other way. To change things it is going to take more than a King, it is going to take people and good government backed by law abiding people.

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“Dear Sheikh Yassin,
We are writing to you regarding continued attacks against civilians for which the Islamic Resistance Movement (harakat al-muqawama al-islamiyya, Hamas) has claimed responsibility. We are aware of remarks by you and by other leading Hamas figures, including Dr. Abd al-Aziz al-Rantissi and Dr. Mahmoud Zahar, endorsing such attacks.”
Letter to Hamas Spiritual Leader Sheikh Ahmed Yassin (Human Rights Watch Press release, )

This part is interesting:

"You yourself have acknowledged that the Geneva Conventions prohibit attacks against civilians, but then claimed that such protections do not extend to "occupiers." In an interview published in the August 11, 2001 St. Petersburg Times, you are quoted as saying: 'The Geneva convention protects civilians in occupied territories not civilians who are in fact occupiers.... All of Israel, Tel Aviv included, is occupied Palestine. So we're not actually targeting civilians-that would go against Islam.' This is a gross misreading of international law. International humanitarian law in fact makes no exceptions whatsoever to the prohibition against targeting civilians."
Letter to Hamas Spiritual Leader Sheikh Ahmed Yassin (Human Rights Watch Press release, )

Although the Arab League after September 11, 2001 wanted a definition of terrorism by the United Nations that would allow for what Hamas wants, it has never gotten it, yet.

How is using civilian disguised bombers, putting Islamic civilians on the virtual target list, going with Islam?

Please, pay attention to what Jenin in other topics has offered as peace with Israel, and here he speaks for Hamas:

"If Hamas was blood thirsty for jewish blood, then I guarentee you every synagogue in Israel would be bombed overnight." (Jenin)

The questions are based upon a false premise, by what appears to me is a student propagandist, who in my opinion is attempting to shadow the Hamas Charter and other Hamas comments over the years, which Red_Dave is certainly intelligent enough to understand.
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Hamas is not killing Jews per se but those that take part in the campaign against their people.
I understood what he said but its an inaccurate assesment of whats happening. If Hamas were *only* killing those involved in this capaign then they would attack military targets rather then random civillians. How are random students wageing a campaign against their people? These people where not killed because they where a threat but because they where Isrealis, thus on the part of Hamas this conflict is sectarian rather then purely political.

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