Joby

Yeah, like Ehud Olmert has the power to draw back Israelis encroaching on Palestinian territory.

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When the government helps millionaires, it's to save the American dream.

Vader

How many times do I have to tell you ... IT IS NOT PALESTINIAN TERRITORY?

It's jewish territory that was stolen by the Romans.

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Joby

Stolen by the Romans?

Who the hell didn't the Romans conquer?

Futhermore, Jews were allowed to live in Palestine during the Roman years. The Romans even executed people their leadership wanted dead so they would stay in line.

However, when they tried to rise up, they were crushed completely and absolutely by the Romans; until, as Josephus put it, "But when they [Romans] went in numbers into the lanes of the city, with their swords drawn, they slew those whom they overtook, without mercy, and set fire to the houses wither the Jews were fled, and burnt every soul in them, and laid waste a great many of the rest."

The moral of this ancient story (and that of Carthage and everywhere else who faced Rome)?

Don't **** with the Romans.

mpg

I'm not quite sure what you're saying. I heard one Israeli say that even the Israeli government couldn't disband the two largest settlements. Is that what you're saying?

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Vader

That mentality was largely responsible for the fall of the Roman empire.

GarzaUK

No territory should be "owned" by a religion. Territory should be owned by all or no religions.

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Vader

Perhaps, but you will never get the islamic owmed and operated countries to accept this philosophy.

Billo_Really

You'd be a much nicer person if you had a muslim grandaddy.

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Vader

You mean I would be a terrorist or a terrorist sympathizer.

I guess I am lucky my grandparents were english and Irish.

Billo_Really

My parents were Irish and I'm an *******.