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Peshmerga fighters tell of encounters with ISIS

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NEAR NAWARAN, Iraq — Behind fortified hills on the outskirts of a town called Nawaran, just over 16 miles northeast of Mosul, hundreds of Iraqi Kurdish forces, known as the peshmerga, were encamped as the fight against the Islamic State raged on Thursday.

Since the battle for Mosul began earlier in the week, peshmerga forces have been persistent in recapturing their targeted towns, closing in toward the center of the city. They have managed to take control of more than a dozen villages in just a few days.
https://www.yahoo.com/news/peshmerg...ait-anxiously-for-their-turn-2-210402581.html
 
Seriously I am confused, we are a talking and arguing club, not a news feed.

I dont get it.
 
MickeyW said:
NEAR NAWARAN, Iraq — Behind fortified hills on the outskirts of a town called Nawaran, just over 16 miles northeast of Mosul, hundreds of Iraqi Kurdish forces, known as the peshmerga, were encamped as the fight against the Islamic State raged on Thursday.

Since the battle for Mosul began earlier in the week, peshmerga forces have been persistent in recapturing their targeted towns, closing in toward the center of the city. They have managed to take control of more than a dozen villages in just a few days.
https://www.yahoo.com/news/peshmerg...ait-anxiously-for-their-turn-2-210402581.html
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The Iraqi Army does not want the Peshmerga to go into Mosul. The Turks don't trust the Peshmerga. The Peshmerga might be the best soldiers in the battle. Politics is still in play here. Also, the Western escape route out of Mosul is not defended and Daesh was selling its' OIL to Turkey as business partners. Might be some trust issues here. Perhaps the USA wants those pesky Daesh to retreat to Raqqa and become another thorn in Assad's side. Point being that here is a reason that they don't wipe out Daesh like they should. Another trust issue. Too many conflicting covert agendas.
 
DaveFagan said:
The Iraqi Army does not want the Peshmerga to go into Mosul. The Turks don't trust the Peshmerga. The Peshmerga might be the best soldiers in the battle. Politics is still in play here. Also, the Western escape route out of Mosul is not defended and Daesh was selling its' OIL to Turkey as business partners. Might be some trust issues here. Perhaps the USA wants those pesky Daesh to retreat to Raqqa and become another thorn in Assad's side. Point being that here is a reason that they don't wipe out Daesh like they should. Another trust issue. Too many conflicting covert agendas.
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Thanks for the info. It appears that the ME is a continual can of worms, with way too many factions fighting for ideology....as per usual.
 
I see a lot of complaining that there is not in place any agreement as to what happens to the city.

Sounds a lot like the US invading Iraq without a plan.

Do we ever learn?

Apparently not.
 
Hawkeye10 said:
I see a lot of complaining that there is not in place any agreement as to what happens to the city.

Sounds a lot like the US invading Iraq without a plan.

Do we ever learn?

Apparently not.
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It's not 'we'. It's the Kurds. It's those people over there settling things among themselves. Do you think that helping them from a distance gives you a seat at the table? That's kind of what led to this fiasco in the first place.
Don't moan about agreements. Let them work it out. For some reason (guess the reason) the locals might have more success against ISIS than any coalition of western forces.
 
Grand Mal said:
It's not 'we'. It's the Kurds. It's those people over there settling things among themselves. Do you think that helping them from a distance gives you a seat at the table? That's kind of what led to this fiasco in the first place.
Don't moan about agreements. Let them work it out. For some reason (guess the reason) the locals might have more success against ISIS than any coalition of western forces.
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Make the we whom ever you want, after what happened when the US invaded without a plan nobody should be doing something this big without a plan, plus we have a long running proxy war pulverizing Syria right next door with a lot of these same people involved in that.

A little caution should be mandatory from all.
 
Hawkeye10 said:
Make the we whom ever you want, after what happened when the US invaded without a plan nobody should be doing something this big without a plan, plus we have a long running proxy war pulverizing Syria right next door with a lot of these same people involved in that.

A little caution should be mandatory from all.
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No.
Why do you think there's not a plan? Success is possible without American direction. You (America) are supporting with air power, can't that be enough involvement? Canadian Special Forces have been training Peshmurga for months and supporting them in combat but that doesn't give the Canadian DoD any right to be involved in whatever the locals are planning.
Back off. Give support where you see it's needed but let the locals sort it out. Hell, it's not like your track record in the area should give you any confidence about knowing what's going to work.
 
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