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US military: Iranian behavior getting worse in Persian Gulf...

oneworld2 said:
You have no real way of knowing how far away from the US ship the Iranian patrol boats where , none of us do. The footage provided could have been filmed on a zoom lens , giving a false impression of the proximity etc.

BTW Do you know how rich it is to see an American ex military going on about the military of other nations sticking to international laws ? Your country is the biggest rogue state on the planet. It has been flouting international laws and conventions all around the world for donkeys years. It has exempted its people from the jurisdiction of the International Court of Justice. It's helped to wreck whole nations from Asia to Latin America and a whole host of nations in between , trampling on the laws as it did so.

It has backed some of the most vile regimes and warmongers you could imagine and helped in the massacres these regimes perpetrated .

By comparison the Iranians are angels .

You should , first of all , familiarize yourself with your own sordid history and serial violations of international laws before you start spouting off about the conduct of other nations .
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I may save your bit of anti-American drivel for my files. It rivals the propaganda the Soviet Union used to put out against this country.
 
oneworld2 said:
It's about international laws and conventions and who sticks to them and who doesn,t. You , as an American ( same as the last poster I responded to above ), are in no position to lecture others on the subject.

The same can be said about the military personnel and government officials that have been complaining about the Iranians.

You all need a good look in the mirror imho
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You have very good reason to be humble about your opinion.
 
I have spent many months cruising those waters, and all this silliness is par for the course.

They know we can blow them out of the water at will, so they keep just this side of the "don't go there" line.

The fact that we have a CIC with no balls is also a deciding factor in how much crap they will do, but....even then, they stay just this side of the line.

What is sad, is we once killed an Indian fisherman with a .50 caliber through his head because he did not pull away quick enough. The incident was not broadcast much in India or the US because it was something we all regretted.

Once on the bridge they told us..." OK, Americans, we do not kill you today"

of which one second class quartermaster picked up the mic and said...NO BALLS! Go for it, you goat ****ers!

We all laughed, but were also told to not take their verbal bait anymore.

The Persians always know just how far to push and when to back away. They have been at this game a very long time.
 
oneworld2 said:
You have no real way of knowing how far away from the US ship the Iranian patrol boats where , none of us do. The footage provided could have been filmed on a zoom lens , giving a false impression of the proximity etc.

BTW Do you know how rich it is to see an American ex military going on about the military of other nations sticking to international laws ? Your country is the biggest rogue state on the planet. It has been flouting international laws and conventions all around the world for donkeys years. It has exempted its people from the jurisdiction of the International Court of Justice. It's helped to wreck whole nations from Asia to Latin America and a whole host of nations in between , trampling on the laws as it did so.

It has backed some of the most vile regimes and warmongers you could imagine and helped in the massacres these regimes perpetrated .

By comparison the Iranians are angels .

You should , first of all , familiarize yourself with your own sordid history and serial violations of international laws before you start spouting off about the conduct of other nations .
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in summary.....oneworld2 = hates everything America says and does.

Just making sure my notebook is accurate, right?
 
Sherman123 said:
We're in a position to lecture others because we have a particular position which we subscribe to and choose to lecture others. It's as simple as that.
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The only " position " you have , as a nation , is that of the serial hypocrite.
 
matchlight said:
I may save your bit of anti-American drivel for my files. It rivals the propaganda the Soviet Union used to put out against this country.
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Save what you like but it ain't " drivel ".

I,ll just note that you completely dipped out of challenging the points I raised...................... an exercise in damage limitation I think.
 
RetiredNSmilin said:
in summary.....oneworld2 = hates everything America says and does.

Just making sure my notebook is accurate, right?
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It really gets to you people when you are met with the challenge of defending your own nations actions and deeds. BTW you will need more than a notebook to catalogue them too.

Make all the notes you want , just remember that you too opted to dodge the challenge.
 
oneworld2 said:
It really gets to you people when you are met with the challenge of defending your own nations actions and deeds. BTW you will need more than a notebook to catalogue them too.

Make all the notes you want , just remember that you too opted to dodge the challenge.
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I LOVE a good challenge, and a good argument about America and its policies....good and bad.

What I do not like is one-sided hatred of my country, completely overlooking the sins of others.

Communists and Social Justice Warriors do this all the time.

ONLY the US, and no others are the ONLY bad guys on the international stage, according to them and you.

In my experience, when you follow the puppet strings back, you find they (you) are reciting a playbook written by one of the usual suspects.

Very predictable. You will know them by their buzz words.
 
Sherman123 said:
Hypocrisy in the pursuit of a better world is no vice.
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See , this is a big part of the problem.................. too many Americans like yourself believe their own BS.
 
RetiredNSmilin said:
I LOVE a good challenge, and a good argument about America and its policies....good and bad.

What I do not like is one-sided hatred of my country, completely overlooking the sins of others.

Communists and Social Justice Warriors do this all the time.

ONLY the US, and no others are the ONLY bad guys on the international stage, according to them and you.

In my experience, when you follow the puppet strings back, you find they (you) are reciting a playbook written by one of the usual suspects.

Very predictable. You will know them by their buzz words.
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Sorry but the above is an obvious attempt to swerve the challenge. Not only have you swerved it you've even had the temerity to try to blame me for doing so................... hilarious
 
Sherman123 said:
Thank god some of us do.
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I could live with it if you all just walked around your own state and crooned at how nice you all are , really I could. But you don't. You go around the world destroying countries , killing people in droves and turning wives into widows and kids into orphans whilst telling yourselves how nice you are.
 
oneworld2 said:
I could live with it if you all just walked around your own state and crooned at how nice you all are , really I could. But you don't. You go around the world destroying countries , killing people in droves and turning wives into widows and kids into orphans whilst telling yourselves how nice you are.
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The liberal international order isn't built by well-wishing. It requires an exertion of energy, blood, and treasure. I'm not at all shamed by the fact that we participate in this struggle. You have a simplistic view of the world.
 
Sherman123 said:
The liberal international order isn't built by well-wishing. It requires an exertion of energy, blood, and treasure. I'm not at all shamed by the fact that we participate in this struggle. You have a simplistic view of the world.
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please !

The US has supported some of the most repressive regimes in the world and aided in the slaughter of the peoples living under them , so please don't try to give it all the " liberal international order " stuff. You have to be extremely historically selective to believe that hogwash mate.

International relations/geopolitics are ugly affairs filled with self serving power circles. That you believe your own aren't as ugly as the rest is testimony only to your own conditioning imo
 
oneworld2 said:
I could live with it if you all just walked around your own state and crooned at how nice you all are , really I could. But you don't. You go around the world destroying countries , killing people in droves and turning wives into widows and kids into orphans whilst telling yourselves how nice you are.
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So exactly who are you? A disgruntled US citizen or a what?
 
chuckiechan said:
So exactly who are you? A disgruntled US citizen or a what?
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Who are you ? An NSA operative ? A chinese version of that psycho doll from Childs Play ?

Look it doesn't matter who I am or where I'm from , what matters is the content of peoples posts and the points they raise up for debate.

Jump in on any points raised instead of turning the attention to the poster
 
You seem to be pretty busy dredging up anything the US has done, then use that to justify the right of other countries to do he same.

I bet you don't burn hundred dollar bills because Benjamin Franklin is on them.
 
chuckiechan said:
You seem to be pretty busy dredging up anything the US has done, then use that to justify the right of other countries to do he same.

I bet you don't burn hundred dollar bills because Benjamin Franklin is on them.
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it's hard to talk about any part of the world without mentioning the actions influence of the USA , surely you are aware of the lists of US " interventions " in recent history
 
oneworld2 said:
Sorry but the above is an obvious attempt to swerve the challenge. Not only have you swerved it you've even had the temerity to try to blame me for doing so................... hilarious
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Thanks for the new word....TEMERITRY

Gotta look that one up.

I like all the new words I am learning here.
 
We are leaving the region, and Iran is interested in speeding up the process.

Expected.
 
oneworld2 said:
That's not how it is spelled and it's not how I spelled it


temerity=excessive confidence or boldness; audacity.



Every day is a school day
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Yup. I have a little 3x5 notebook where I write down all the new words I learn on here. It is quite the vocabulary builder.

I added an extra R. Thanks again for the correction.....and the definition.
 
RetiredNSmilin said:
Yup. I have a little 3x5 notebook where I write down all the new words I learn on here. It is quite the vocabulary builder.

I added an extra R. Thanks again for the correction.....and the definition.
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You're welcome

I think we all get something out of these debates which is always a good thing. Happy vocabulary building.
 
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