Apartheid Israel's Inhuman Ghetto: Gaza - Page 61

Billo_Really · 02-10-08, 05:10 PM

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Originally Posted by cherokee

Mr.Bill would you kindly explain your position on Israeli rocket attacks?

Waiting for your reply
Sincerely
Mr. Cherokee

PS. would you like some crumpets with your tea Sir?

Everyone indigenous to a certain area has the right to defend themselves from an occupational foreign force. All member nations of the UN (including Israel) agree that the territory refered to as the OPT, is an "occupation". Therefore, one school of thought may be, that these rockets are in defense of that territory being occupied.

CaptainCourtesy · 02-10-08, 05:12 PM

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Originally Posted by cherokee

Here, here my good man.
Care for a spot of tea while we await his honorable reply?

A spot of tea is always desirable. No cream or sugar, please.

cherokee · 02-10-08, 07:18 PM

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Originally Posted by Billo_Really

Everyone indigenous to a certain area has the right to defend themselves from an occupational foreign force. All member nations of the UN (including Israel) agree that the territory refered to as the OPT, is an "occupation". Therefore, one school of thought may be, that these rockets are in defense of that territory being occupied.

Everyone indigenous to a certain area has the right to defend themselves from an occupational foreign force. All member nations of the UN (including Israel) agree that the territory refered to as the OPT, is an "occupation". Therefore, one school of thought may be, that these rockets are in defense of that territory being occupied

Mr.Billo, Thank you for your in depth views but it hasn’t answered the question I posed to you earlier dear Sir.
Granted Israel has occupied territory but one has to ask why has she done such a thing. Could it be because her Arab neighbors have and continue to wish for her destruction in waging several wars against her?

And an educated man such as your self cannot forget when she (Israel) did returned Gaza the events the transpired soon thereafter. I’m sure my good man you know as well what that group of hooligans thugs called the hamas stated after its conquest of Gaza “This is a new Islamic state” with its own hate filled charter proclaiming its wanton destruction for Israel and its Zionists empire.

Now I’m sure you wouldn’t want to see any non military personal hurt or killed so why would you state the rockets blindly fired into Israel is anything less then a barbaric attack and not as you proclaimed acts of self defense?

What say you to this?

Waiting for your reply

Sincerely
Mr. Cherokee

cherokee · 02-10-08, 07:21 PM

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Originally Posted by CaptainCourtesy

A spot of tea is always desirable. No cream or sugar, please.

As you wish Mr. CC.
Might I temp you wish this delightful angel cake with the white fancy frosting?

Billo_Really · 02-10-08, 08:45 PM

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Originally Posted by cherokee

Everyone indigenous to a certain area has the right to defend themselves from an occupational foreign force. All member nations of the UN (including Israel) agree that the territory refered to as the OPT, is an "occupation". Therefore, one school of thought may be, that these rockets are in defense of that territory being occupied

Mr.Billo, Thank you for your in depth views but it hasn’t answered the question I posed to you earlier dear Sir.
Granted Israel has occupied territory but one has to ask why has she done such a thing. Could it be because her Arab neighbors have and continue to wish for her destruction in waging several wars against her?

And an educated man such as your self cannot forget when she (Israel) did returned Gaza the events the transpired soon thereafter. I’m sure my good man you know as well what that group of hooligans thugs called the hamas stated after its conquest of Gaza “This is a new Islamic state” with its own hate filled charter proclaiming its wanton destruction for Israel and its Zionists empire.

Now I’m sure you wouldn’t want to see any non military personal hurt or killed so why would you state the rockets blindly fired into Israel is anything less then a barbaric attack and not as you proclaimed acts of self defense?

What say you to this?

Waiting for your reply

Sincerely
Mr. Cherokee

Why? I just told you why! I've also stated that Hamas needs to re-write their charter. Because Israel has a right to live in peace. But you still haven't spent any effort trying to understand the average Palestinian's in this issue. What they are going through. What happens to them when the IDF reduces it's kill zone. When the IDF treats scaling a fence as a capitol crime. Put the shoe on the other foot. You still don't see that this is a two-way street where wrong has been committed on both sides. But you just see it one-way. Israel is good, Palestine is bad. Yeah, I've read your comments on Abbas and you didn't convince me of your sincerity. But that's just me.

Hey, I could be wrong!
(It's a novel concept, try it sometime)

cherokee · 02-11-08, 01:33 PM

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Originally Posted by Billo_Really

Why? I just told you why! I've also stated that Hamas needs to re-write their charter. Because Israel has a right to live in peace. But you still haven't spent any effort trying to understand the average Palestinian's in this issue. What they are going through. What happens to them when the IDF reduces it's kill zone. When the IDF treats scaling a fence as a capitol crime. Put the shoe on the other foot. You still don't see that this is a two-way street where wrong has been committed on both sides. But you just see it one-way. Israel is good, Palestine is bad. Yeah, I've read your comments on Abbas and you didn't convince me of your sincerity. But that's just me.

Hey, I could be wrong!
(It's a novel concept, try it sometime)

Mr. Bill,
I have seen first hand how the Palestinian's live, I’ve also seen how the Lebanese live.
I’ve witnessed with my own eyes the excuses these people use to murder innocents in the name of Allah and not so much as a fight for land.
For now we shall separate the peoples into the Militants and the Common people.
You believe in earnest you can negotiate with militants but the truth is the only agreement they will accept is your death. They are unwilling to coexist because they believe they’re acting with Allah’s blessing. Remember what the Koran says about the Jewish people.

Now maybe the common people want peace, maybe they don’t care for the aggression and mindless death, Yet they don’t stand together to force the Militants to stop. As a people desiring peace they don’t act to end the violence or even try and curb it.
The common people allow the militants to represent them to the world.
How many times can a person or people shoot them selves in the foot before your concern for their safety and well being disappears?

Can you name the two most important threats to Israel today?
Suicide bombers and rocket attacks. Is the person climbing over the fence carrying a suicide vest? What is contained in the vest besides explosives? Maybe nuts, bolts, nails and BB’s? At what distance are you safe from the blast and its deadly cargo, 300, 500 or 700 yards?
Are you willing to place yourself in the IDF shoes to approach the person disobeying the signs that say “You will be shot climbing this fence” or something to that effect?
Since you have their shoes on could you shot a child or teen strapped with explosives? Are you prepared to live with this threat day in and day out?

One last question Mr. Bill, today who is holding up the peace process, which side is in danger of unraveling everything that has been accomplished to date?

Waiting for your reply old chap

Sincerely
Mr. Cherokee

bub · 02-11-08, 01:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by cherokee

Mr. Bill,
I have seen first hand how the Palestinian's live, I’ve also seen how the Lebanese live.
I’ve witnessed with my own eyes the excuses these people use to murder innocents in the name of Allah and not so much as a fight for land.
For now we shall separate the peoples into the Militants and the Common people.
You believe in earnest you can negotiate with militants but the truth is the only agreement they will accept is your death. They are unwilling to coexist because they believe they’re acting with Allah’s blessing. Remember what the Koran says about the Jewish people.

Now maybe the common people want peace, maybe they don’t care for the aggression and mindless death, Yet they don’t stand together to force the Militants to stop. As a people desiring peace they don’t act to end the violence or even try and curb it.
The common people allow the militants to represent them to the world.
How many times can a person or people shoot them selves in the foot before your concern for their safety and well being disappears?

Can you name the two most important threats to Israel today?
Suicide bombers and rocket attacks. Is the person climbing over the fence carrying a suicide vest? What is contained in the vest besides explosives? Maybe nuts, bolts, nails and BB’s? At what distance are you safe from the blast and its deadly cargo, 300, 500 or 700 yards?
Are you willing to place yourself in the IDF shoes to approach the person disobeying the signs that say “You will be shot climbing this fence” or something to that effect?
Since you have their shoes on could you shot a child or teen strapped with explosives? Are you prepared to live with this threat day in and day out?

One last question Mr. Bill, today who is holding up the peace process, which side is in danger of unraveling everything that has been accomplished to date?

Waiting for your reply old chap

Sincerely
Mr. Cherokee

wow, you're much more convincing when you're polite!