• This is a political forum that is non-biased/non-partisan and treats every person's position on topics equally. This debate forum is not aligned to any political party. In today's politics, many ideas are split between and even within all the political parties. Often we find ourselves agreeing on one platform but some topics break our mold. We are here to discuss them in a civil political debate. If this is your first visit to our political forums, be sure to check out the RULES. Registering for debate politics is necessary before posting. Register today to participate - it's free!

ISIS Might Want to Stock Up on Depends, US Poised to Change ‘Boots on the Ground[W:56

JANFU

Land by the Gulf Stream
Supporting Member
DP Veteran
Monthly Donator
Joined
Dec 27, 2014
Messages
59,290
Reaction score
38,841
Location
Best Coast Canada
Gender
Male
Political Leaning
Slightly Liberal
ISIS Might Want to Stock Up on Depends, Because US Poised to Change ‘Boots on the Ground’ Policy

Foreign Policy reports:

In a major shift, the Obama administration is now willing to have U.S. troops take part in direct combat against the Islamic State, a move that could lead to American fatalities in Iraq and Syria and that poses political risks for a White House that had long vowed to keep U.S. forces out of the fight.

In testimony before the Senate Armed Services committee on Tuesday, Defense Secretary Ash Carter said that the U.S. “won’t hold back from supporting capable partners in opportunistic attacks against ISIL…or conducting such missions directly, whether by strikes from the air or direct action on the ground.” ISIL is an alternate acronym for the Islamic State, which is also known as ISIS or Daesh.

Thoughts are?
 
Re: ISIS Might Want to Stock Up on Depends, Because US Poised to Change ‘Boots on the

With Russia's involvement this may not be the best idea.
 
Re: ISIS Might Want to Stock Up on Depends, Because US Poised to Change ‘Boots on the

My thoughts are, if this is entirely true (and it looks like it is from recent actions) then Obama is getting baited into this conflict in a way he was politically is opposed to. Making him both a hypocrite in all criticism of all Republican action resulting in use of our military forces to date, but also extremely foolish for basically playing into the hands of Putin's game.

I doubt it will ever be acknowledged but I have to point out the irony of our Nobel Peace Prize winning President being *for* use of drone warfare in a series of nations, military action also in a series of nations causing instability from Libya to Syria to Iraq (even Afghanistan is not all that stable,) perhaps boots back on the ground in Iraq conducting military operations, and overall... just like his predecessor Bush 43.

Can't wait to see the liberal spin on Obama's military action is all good, but Republicans military action was all bad. In the mean time I hope more people realize that Obama is just another in a long line of Presidents engaged in a confusing and hypocritical foreign policy that is destine to cause down the road headaches.

So much for Saudi Arabia and other nations cleaning up their back yard...
 
Last edited:
Re: ISIS Might Want to Stock Up on Depends, Because US Poised to Change ‘Boots on the

This is a thinly veiled excuse to have Americans get into combat with Russians. WW3 here we come!

Wrong.
 
Re: ISIS Might Want to Stock Up on Depends, Because US Poised to Change ‘Boots on the


The Americans support "moderate rebels". The Russians will fight against "moderate rebels". What do you think is going to happen?
 
Re: ISIS Might Want to Stock Up on Depends, Because US Poised to Change ‘Boots on the


Don't Feed the Reinoe.


To the extent that we want to do harm to ISIL, this is good. US troops on the ground need their accompany authorities expanded and targeting authorities pushed down as far as possible. Hopefully the CJSOTF-I will be able to get some, and there won't be any future Is-it-or-Isn't-it monkey dance from the Pentagon.
 
Re: ISIS Might Want to Stock Up on Depends, Because US Poised to Change ‘Boots on the

This is just a show to try and make people think the US government is actually fighting against ISIS when in fact they (and their allies) are supplying them weapons and funds to carry out their disgusting acts.
 
Re: ISIS Might Want to Stock Up on Depends, Because US Poised to Change ‘Boots on the



It rather exemplifies the fact the White House is distantly out of touch with the realities of the middle east. I recall his "no boots on the ground" and said at the time it was for domestic consumption, that sooner or later the US would be compelled to get into it. I suspect Obama had hoped to be able to stave off thius moment for a year or so.
 
Re: ISIS Might Want to Stock Up on Depends, Because US Poised to Change ‘Boots on the

This is just a show to try and make people think the US government is actually fighting against ISIS when in fact they (and their allies) are supplying them weapons and funds to carry out their disgusting acts.

There is a Conspiracy Theory Forum for those arguments. Feel free to use it.
 
Re: ISIS Might Want to Stock Up on Depends, Because US Poised to Change ‘Boots on the

The Americans support "moderate rebels". The Russians will fight against "moderate rebels". What do you think is going to happen?

They- US- Russians will stay out of direct contact in the field.
 
Re: ISIS Might Want to Stock Up on Depends, Because US Poised to Change ‘Boots on the

which "boots?"
SOF did the hostages rescue against ISIl..is that it? or more embedded like Iraqi trainers/advisors
(about 4k on the ground there) what force is the terms of "boots" used here?
 
Re: ISIS Might Want to Stock Up on Depends, Because US Poised to Change ‘Boots on the

It rather exemplifies the fact the White House is distantly out of touch with the realities of the middle east. I recall his "no boots on the ground" and said at the time it was for domestic consumption, that sooner or later the US would be compelled to get into it. I suspect Obama had hoped to be able to stave off thius moment for a year or so.

We are fighting a war where the strategy is dependent on what the POTUS thinks will get him the least grief at home.
 
Re: ISIS Might Want to Stock Up on Depends, Because US Poised to Change ‘Boots on the

They- US- Russians will stay out of direct contact in the field.

More to the point. The Russians are bombing in Syria. This is about Iraq.

And those are two different countries.
 
Re: ISIS Might Want to Stock Up on Depends, Because US Poised to Change ‘Boots on the

There is a Conspiracy Theory Forum for those arguments. Feel free to use it.
It is a known fact. Ever wondered why ISIS is still existing in the face of the worlds strongest air force? The place is not Vietnam, it is one of the most open and exposed environments on earth.
 
Re: ISIS Might Want to Stock Up on Depends, Because US Poised to Change ‘Boots on the

It rather exemplifies the fact the White House is distantly out of touch with the realities of the middle east. I recall his "no boots on the ground" and said at the time it was for domestic consumption, that sooner or later the US would be compelled to get into it. I suspect Obama had hoped to be able to stave off thius moment for a year or so.

For training, i support, for calling in accurate air- artillery - I support- Arm the Kurds to the teeth. And let the Iraqi's spill their own blood.
Iraq in my opinion is destined to split along ethnic lines.
 
Re: ISIS Might Want to Stock Up on Depends, Because US Poised to Change ‘Boots on the

For training, i support, for calling in accurate air- artillery - I support- Arm the Kurds to the teeth. And let the Iraqi's spill their own blood.
Iraq in my opinion is destined to split along ethnic lines.

By the way Kurds are being bombed by Turkey.
 
Re: ISIS Might Want to Stock Up on Depends, Because US Poised to Change ‘Boots on the

It is a known fact. Ever wondered why ISIS is still existing in the face of the worlds strongest air force? The place is not Vietnam, it is one of the most open and exposed environments on earth.

The air strikes are not as frequent as you believe. Only 2 in Syria since 22 Oct.
 
Re: ISIS Might Want to Stock Up on Depends, Because US Poised to Change ‘Boots on the

It is a known fact.

No. It is a theory that belongs with other brands of trutherism - in the CT form.

Ever wondered why ISIS is still existing in the face of the worlds strongest air force?

Nope. The worlds' strongest airforce isn't being unleashed, air power can't dominate territory, ISIL embeds itself into civilian populaces and uses semi-effective camouflage and concealment, and ISIL can replace a foreign fighter cheaper than we can replace a PGM.

The Administration isn't helping ISIL. It's just not willing to do much about it, because it lacks a strategy to deal with ISIL, and sort of hopes that it can get through the rest of it's time without having to.
 
Re: ISIS Might Want to Stock Up on Depends, Because US Poised to Change ‘Boots on the

For training, i support, for calling in accurate air- artillery - I support- Arm the Kurds to the teeth. And let the Iraqi's spill their own blood.
Iraq in my opinion is destined to split along ethnic lines.

That is exactly how Vietnam started. "Advisers"
 
Re: ISIS Might Want to Stock Up on Depends, Because US Poised to Change ‘Boots on the

Carter called the new strategy, “Raqqa, Ramadi, and raids,” referring first to the Islamic State’s de facto capital in Syria, followed by the Iraqi city of Ramadi that was taken by jihadist forces in May, and finally to the the potential new American ground role in the fight.

In Syria, Carter said the U.S. would continue advising and equipping Syrian opposition groups and Kurdish fighters while also launching new air raids against the Islamic State, particularly in and around Raqqa.
I don't see anything new..maybe more in Iraq, but Syria stys the same, and we already have "boots" in Iraq.
 
Re: ISIS Might Want to Stock Up on Depends, Because US Poised to Change ‘Boots on the

It is a known fact. Ever wondered why ISIS is still existing in the face of the worlds strongest air force? The place is not Vietnam, it is one of the most open and exposed environments on earth.

No it is not a known fact. Just like the moon landing was faked. i go with cpwill on this one. Place your known facts in the conspiracy theory forum.
Then watch as it is Ginsued to pieces.
 
Re: ISIS Might Want to Stock Up on Depends, Because US Poised to Change ‘Boots on the

No. It is a theory that belongs with other brands of trutherism - in the CT form.



Nope. The worlds' strongest airforce isn't being unleashed, air power can't dominate territory, ISIL embeds itself into civilian populaces and uses semi-effective camouflage and concealment, and ISIL can replace a foreign fighter cheaper than we can replace a PGM.

The Administration isn't helping ISIL. It's just not willing to do much about it, because it lacks a strategy to deal with ISIL, and sort of hopes that it can get through the rest of it's time without having to.

Then I guess the Russian air force is bombing only civilians then? *sigh*. The Russians are bombing the proxy army created by the west to over throw the Assad government in Syria.
 
Back
Top Bottom