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Russia strikes not targeting Islamic State areas in Syria: U.S. official

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Russia's airstrikes in Syria so far do not appear to be targeting Islamic State-held territory, a U.S. official told Reuters on Wednesday, a crucial detail which could complicate any potential cooperation with the United States in the war.

The official, who spoke on condition of anonymity, said Russia was carrying out the strikes in the vicinity of Homs and perhaps other areas in Syria as well, noting that all U.S. information on Russian activity was still preliminary
Russia strikes not targeting Islamic State areas in Syria: U.S. official - Yahoo News

Western-backed Syrian rebel group says hit by Russian air strikes
Western-backed Syrian rebel group says hit by Russian air strikes - Yahoo News

Russian air strikes in northwest Syria which Moscow said targeted Islamic State fighters hit a rebel group supported by Western opponents of President Bashar al-Assad on Wednesday, wounding eight, the group's commander said.

He said the fighters were hit in the countryside of Hama province, where the group has a headquarters.

The Homs area is crucial to President Bashar al-Assad's control of western Syria. Insurgent control of that area would bisect the Assad-held west, separating Damascus from the coastal cities of Latakia and Tartous, where Russia operates a naval facility.

"The northern countryside of Hama has no presence of ISIS at all and is under the control of the Free Syrian Army," Major Jamil al-Saleh, who defected from the Syrian army in 2012, told Reuters via Skype.
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so here it goes, Russia is going after a very important contested area -and directly at ta FSA headquarters in it's bid to "attack ISIS"

This is no accident -it's deliberate to give Assad some breathing room..and this:

The Homs area is crucial to President Bashar al-Assad's control of western Syria. Insurgent control of that area would bisect the Assad-held west, separating Damascus from the coastal cities of Latakia and Tartous, where Russia operates a naval facility.
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annata said:
Russia's airstrikes in Syria so far do not appear to be targeting Islamic State-held territory, a U.S. official told Reuters on Wednesday, a crucial detail which could complicate any potential cooperation with the United States in the war.

The official, who spoke on condition of anonymity, said Russia was carrying out the strikes in the vicinity of Homs and perhaps other areas in Syria as well, noting that all U.S. information on Russian activity was still preliminary
Russia strikes not targeting Islamic State areas in Syria: U.S. official - Yahoo News

Western-backed Syrian rebel group says hit by Russian air strikes
Western-backed Syrian rebel group says hit by Russian air strikes - Yahoo News

Russian air strikes in northwest Syria which Moscow said targeted Islamic State fighters hit a rebel group supported by Western opponents of President Bashar al-Assad on Wednesday, wounding eight, the group's commander said.

He said the fighters were hit in the countryside of Hama province, where the group has a headquarters.

The Homs area is crucial to President Bashar al-Assad's control of western Syria. Insurgent control of that area would bisect the Assad-held west, separating Damascus from the coastal cities of Latakia and Tartous, where Russia operates a naval facility.
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This is a mess. Foreign relations depends on the intelligent use of power, something that this administration has never demonstrated the ability to understand. Now we have ceded power to Russia and it will be decades before the Middle East will reach equilibrium in the battle for influence between east and west.
 
annata said:
rebel group supported by Western opponents of President Bashar al-Assad .
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Who, as in exactly, is a "rebel group supported by Western opponents?" The "moderates" McCain was going on about?
 
OrphanSlug said:
Who, as in exactly, is a "rebel group supported by Western opponents?" The "moderates" McCain was going on about?
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Free Syrian Army is a secularist ( as opposed to hardline Islamist or jihadist) group. It would be amendable to a western styled democracy in Syria.

here's a basic, if dated -scorecard of the players:
Guide to the Syrian rebels - BBC News
 
OrphanSlug said:
Who, as in exactly, is a "rebel group supported by Western opponents?" The "moderates" McCain was going on about?
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Russia's first attacks were against the so called, Free Syrian Army.
 
sawdust said:
This is a mess. Foreign relations depends on the intelligent use of power, something that this administration has never demonstrated the ability to understand. Now we have ceded power to Russia and it will be decades before the Middle East will reach equilibrium in the battle for influence between east and west.
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Russia is making huge moves. In Egypt, Iran, Lebanon, and now Syria ( which always was a client state)..
I don't think they want "balance" anymore then the west does. It's a contested area - literally the middle of the world - not just the oil
 
Shall we act surprised? Russia's interests are to protect Assad and his regime, so of course they're going to attack rebel groups and not specifically the Islamic organizations as they were claiming.
 
annata said:
Russia is making huge moves. In Egypt, Iran, Lebanon, and now Syria ( which always was a client state)..
I don't think they want "balance" anymore then the west does. It's a contested area - literally the middle of the world - not just the oil
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Russia wants dominance. Obama wants to be uninvolved. He has no plan or strategy in the Middle East. He has lead from behind and now we know how that worked.
 
Ehh... does anyone car to translate and find out info about these ppl?

Before (29.9.15)


After (30.9.15)



...and a newly released vid from Russian MoD.


Fallen.
 
annata said:
Free Syrian Army is a secularist ( as opposed to hardline Islamist or jihadist) group. It would be amendable to a western styled democracy in Syria.

here's a basic, if dated -scorecard of the players:
Guide to the Syrian rebels - BBC News
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Fantastic, the guys killing civilians up in northern areas, like the city of Aleppo, a few years back looking for Christians.
 
annata said:
so here it goes, Russia is going after a very important contested area -and directly at ta FSA headquarters in it's bid to "attack ISIS"

This is no accident -it's deliberate to give Assad some breathing room..and this:
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Here, this a real knee slapper from the French. ;)


'Curious' Russian strikes in Syria not against Islamic State: France

France said it was "curious" that Russian air strikes in Syria on Wednesday had not targeted Islamic State militants and a diplomatic source added that Moscow's action appeared aimed at supporting President Bashar al-Assad against other opposition groups in the country's civil war.

A French diplomatic source said the strikes, which seemed to have been carried out near Homs, an area crucial to Assad's control of western Syria. "It is not Daesh (Islamic State) that they are targeting, but probably opposition groups, which confirms that they are more in support of Bashar's regime than in fighting Daesh," the source said, speaking on condition of anonymity.

"We shall see what they do with their other strikes," the source said......snip~

'Curious' Russian strikes in Syria not against Islamic State: France - Yahoo News

:doh
 
Btw. As a continuation to my previous post, this is probably why their HQ/storage facilities were bombed.

They simply have really fancy "toys" ... ..not everyone likes that they have them.




Fallen.
 
MMC said:
Here, this a real knee slapper from the French. ;)


'Curious' Russian strikes in Syria not against Islamic State: France

France said it was "curious" that Russian air strikes in Syria on Wednesday had not targeted Islamic State militants and a diplomatic source added that Moscow's action appeared aimed at supporting President Bashar al-Assad against other opposition groups in the country's civil war.

A French diplomatic source said the strikes, which seemed to have been carried out near Homs, an area crucial to Assad's control of western Syria. "It is not Daesh (Islamic State) that they are targeting, but probably opposition groups, which confirms that they are more in support of Bashar's regime than in fighting Daesh," the source said, speaking on condition of anonymity.

"We shall see what they do with their other strikes," the source said......snip~

'Curious' Russian strikes in Syria not against Islamic State: France - Yahoo News

:doh
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This is a surprise?
 
Russia doesn't care about isis, Russia cares about maintaining Assad, and thus maintaining the Russian naval base in Syria. that's it. that's all. that is the issue. Russia isnt like the US, it cant project its forces worldwide like the US can even without bases, because Russia doesn't have this: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_current_ships_of_the_United_States_Navy

Russia needs that port. and they're clearly willing to fight for it. obama has effectively abandoned the free syrian army, if there ever was such a thing, to destruction. now there are two options in syria; a relatively secular, yet brutal, dictatorship, and an islamic-law based caliphate. good job obama, good job putin, another country damned to ****hole status.
 
MMC said:
Here, this a real knee slapper from the French. ;)


'Curious' Russian strikes in Syria not against Islamic State: France

France said it was "curious" that Russian air strikes in Syria on Wednesday had not targeted Islamic State militants and a diplomatic source added that Moscow's action appeared aimed at supporting President Bashar al-Assad against other opposition groups in the country's civil war.

A French diplomatic source said the strikes, which seemed to have been carried out near Homs, an area crucial to Assad's control of western Syria. "It is not Daesh (Islamic State) that they are targeting, but probably opposition groups, which confirms that they are more in support of Bashar's regime than in fighting Daesh," the source said, speaking on condition of anonymity.

"We shall see what they do with their other strikes," the source said......snip~

'Curious' Russian strikes in Syria not against Islamic State: France - Yahoo News

:doh
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Greetings, MMC. :2wave:

What's so baffling to the French about Russia supporting an ally in Syria? Did they really think they would not act at some point? At least they aren't bombing empty warehouses in the middle of the night to show the world that they are serious about defeating the rebels! ISIL will get the message Russia is sending.
 
Fearandloathing said:
This is a surprise?
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Its the French.....what can I say.
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polgara said:
Greetings, MMC. :2wave:

What's so baffling to the French about Russia supporting an ally in Syria? Did they really think they would not act at some point? At least they aren't bombing empty warehouses in the middle of the night to show the world that they are serious about defeating the rebels! ISIL will get the message Russia is sending.
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Heya Lady P.
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Okay, now you know why you don't let the French call any shots or pull you into anything.

Looks like the Syrian Rebels will be getting the message first. ;)
 
MMC said:
Here, this a real knee slapper from the French. ;)


'Curious' Russian strikes in Syria not against Islamic State: France

France said it was "curious" that Russian air strikes in Syria on Wednesday had not targeted Islamic State militants and a diplomatic source added that Moscow's action appeared aimed at supporting President Bashar al-Assad against other opposition groups in the country's civil war.

A French diplomatic source said the strikes, which seemed to have been carried out near Homs, an area crucial to Assad's control of western Syria. "It is not Daesh (Islamic State) that they are targeting, but probably opposition groups, which confirms that they are more in support of Bashar's regime than in fighting Daesh," the source said, speaking on condition of anonymity.

"We shall see what they do with their other strikes," the source said......snip~

'Curious' Russian strikes in Syria not against Islamic State: France - Yahoo News

:doh
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This is just France's usual understated approach. Don't forget the French once had serious interests in Syria. They are probably appalled by the stupid and feckless policy of our government, and are unwilling to get out in front.

Russia Launches Airstrikes in Syria
 
polgara said:
Greetings, MMC. :2wave:

What's so baffling to the French about Russia supporting an ally in Syria? Did they really think they would not act at some point? At least they aren't bombing empty warehouses in the middle of the night to show the world that they are serious about defeating the rebels! ISIL will get the message Russia is sending.
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Whats baffling is that the Russians are fighting to defend a leader whom the majority of the country will never accept whilst bombing the **** out of the only credible alternative.
 
Red_Dave said:
Whats baffling is that the Russians are fighting to defend a leader whom the majority of the country will never accept whilst bombing the **** out of the only credible alternative.
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The Russians may envision a Chechnya solution.
 
Jack Hays said:
The Russians may envision a Chechnya solution.
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On the contrary, by leaving ISIS and Assad as the only options they are proving a huge PR boost to ISIS- or did you mean a Chechnya solution as in ´´Flatten everything and hope for the best"?
 
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