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In Honor of the Syrian Rebels.....[W:90]

Google: John Kerry Syria

Kerry didn't produce any infor and he just said it, while reducing the percentage due to the American outlook. Moreoverthere would still be a source to your claim.

So again can you produce some sort of link that can validate what you are saying?

Already did.....but then there is nothing to back up the claim. So either you have a Source with some stats or all you have is.....John Kerry said it. Not much to stand on.
 
John Kerry said it. Not much to stand on.

It's much more to stand on than your references to RT, PressTV, Assad and bloggers.
 
It's much more to stand on than your references to RT, PressTV, Assad and bloggers.

Nah not quite.....trying to just stand on John Kerry said that. Doesn't cut it. Which I am sure many many others can agree with. ;)

Except Now I have showed all the Ones by AP, Rueters, UPI, Stratfor, Stars and Stripes, BBC, NY Times, Huff-Po and few others. Which leaves that deflection and you no out. Moreover you must be confused with Monte and Mr Invisible on the News Sources. As I bring up the other side of the story after I start with......whom ALL other News Sources get their news from.
 
Nah not quite.....trying to just stand on John Kerry said that. Doesn't cut it. Which I am sure many many others can agree with. ;)

Except Now I have showed all the Ones by AP, Rueters, UPI, Stratfor, Stars and Stripes, BBC, NY Times, Huff-Po and few others. Which leaves that deflection and you no out. Moreover you must be confused with Monte and Mr Invisible on the News Sources. As I bring up the other side of the story after I start with......whom ALL other News Sources get
their news from.


You have nothing that contradicts US numbers.
 
You have nothing that contradicts US numbers.

Correction.....you have nothing that validates the US Numbers. Just like you don't have any links to back all you say on Syria. Course we didn't even get the numbers Right on the Dead that was gassed. Good thing there was someone over there that was an Independent group that gave out the totals.

Plus you still haven't given anyone any links to the good guys yet.

So all you have is there are good guys in Syria and John Kerry says the rebels are made up of only 15-25% of Islamists. Oh and that the UN says Assad was responsible for 8 civilian massacres opposed to the Rebels only one.

Which the UN Doesn't decipher which civilians are supporters and backers of the Opposition. That assist and help the Rebels, hide the rebels, and report on Assad's people and location.
 
Correction.....you have nothing that validates the US Numbers. Just like you don't have any links to back all you say on Syria. Course we didn't even get the numbers Right on the Dead that was gassed. Good thing there was someone over there that was an Independent group that gave out the totals.

You have nothing that contradicts the US numbers.

So all you have is there are good guys in Syria and John Kerry says the rebels are made up of only 15-25% of Islamists. Oh and that the UN says Assad was responsible for 8 civilian massacres opposed to the Rebels only one.

Those two things destroy all of your citations.
 
You have nothing that contradicts the US numbers.



Those two things destroy all of your citations.

Yeah Al Nusra controlling the Largest City in Syria and almost the entire Northern part of Syria, dispensing law and making money.....was all that was needed to debunk that BS. Not to mention even the New SNC Prime Minister saying that they control it.

Not even in your wildest dreams does what you say even come close to destroying anything on my citations. Again you have nothing. But some hot air. No links to back up anything and now you come running in with.....John Kerry said. :doh :lamo
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Okay Back to our Regular scheduled Programing.....In Honor of the Syrian Rebels. ;)
 
you come running in with.....John Kerry said. :doh :lamo
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You don't think the US Secretary of State has good intel? It's FAR more reliable than RT, PressTV, Assad and bloggers.
 
You don't think the US Secretary of State has good intel? I bet it's better (and FAR more reliable) than RT, PressTV, Assad and bloggers.

Well, when they admit themselves their Intel is limited due to not having many on the ground. No reporters and no other reliable sources. Then no.

You keep saying RT, Presss TV, Assad and bloggers. I have over 8 threads up with those other News Sources. Whats Your Excuse for them? Whats your Excuse for Stratfor.

I know your afraid to admit to them as well as say their Names. But, there is the one thing your forgot. They are up as Threads and with those News Sources. That you don't want to admit to. :doh :doh ...... her let me help it, sink in with ya.
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Well, when they admit themselves their Intel is limited due to not having many on the ground. No reporters and no other reliable sources. Then no.

You keep saying RT, Presss TV, Assad and bloggers. I have over 8 threads up with those other News Sources. Whats Your Excuse for them? Whats your Excuse for Stratfor.

I know your afraid to admit to them as well as say their Names. But, there is the one thing your forgot. They are up as Threads and with those News Sources. That you don't want to admit to. :doh :doh ...... her let me help it, sink in with ya.
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Do you have a source that gives a percentage of rebels that are Islamist extremists/terrorists?

No, you don't. All you've got is totalitarian state propaganda and blogger opinions.
 
Do you have a source that gives a percentage of rebels that are Islamist extremists/terrorists?

No, you don't. All you've got is totalitarian state propaganda and blogger opinions.

I asked you first.....all you keep saying is John Kerry said, and that the government has the stats.
 
Al-Qaida-linked Syria rebels hit Christian village
Associated Press – 1 hr 46 mins ago

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Al-Qaida-linked rebels launched an assault Wednesday on a regime-held Christian village in the densely populated west of Syria and new clashes erupted near the capital, Damascus — part of a brutal battle of attrition each side believes it can win despite more than two years of deadlock.

As the world focused on possible U.S. military action against Syria, rebels commandeered a mountaintop hotel in the village of Maaloula and shelled the community below, said a nun, speaking by phone from a convent in the village. She spoke on condition of anonymity for fear of reprisals.

The attack came hours before a Senate panel voted to give President Barack Obama authority to use military force against Syria — the first time lawmakers have voted to allow military action since the October 2002 votes authorizing the invasion of Iraq.

During a visit to Sweden on Wednesday, Obama said a red line had been drawn by countries around the world that have backed a long-standing ban on chemical weapons. "I didn't set a red line, the world set a red line," he said.

The civil war in Syria hit a stalemate almost from the start. The rebels control much of the countryside in the north, east and south, but the regime is hanging on to most urban centers in the west, where the majority of Syrians live.

The dawn assault on the predominantly Christian village of Maaloula was carried out by rebels from the al-Qaida-linked Jabhat al-Nusra group, according to a Syrian government official and the Syrian Observatory for Human Rights, an anti-regime group.

At the start of the attack, an al-Nusra fighter blew himself up at a regime checkpoint at the entrance to the village, said the Observatory, which collects information from a network of anti-regime activists.

The nun said the rebels took over the Safir hotel atop a mountain overlooking the village and fired shells at it from there. "It's a war. It has been going from 6 a.m. in the morning," she said.....snip~

Al-Qaida-linked Syria rebels hit Christian village


Here the tuff guys Al Nusra bombed some innocent and Unarmed Christians.....even after they killed Assad's troops and took out 2 tanks that were protecting the town. Aren't they just grand and good like?

assad shouldnt defend the regime against the radicals ,many friends think this way

but l appreciate the ones who can get it ,:cool:
 
assad shouldnt defend the regime against the radicals ,many friends think this way

but l appreciate the ones who can get it ,:cool:

Then he should hold elections and deprive them of a justification for their existence.
 
I asked you first.....all you keep saying is John Kerry said, and that the government has the stats.

So, you don't have any stats. All you've got is totalitarian propaganda arms and blogger opinions.
 
So, you don't have any stats. All you've got is totalitarian propaganda arms and blogger opinions.


I have all my other threads around here with the Real News Sources, the ones you are afraid to talk about. I am sure many of them have stats. ;)

Looks like all you got.....is John Kerry said. :doh

So do you have any links to Honor the Syrian Rebels/ Terrorists with? :)
 
It's for the UN to decide, via funding the moderates. The terrorists are merely providing security during the slaughter, they do not have the funds to compete with the UN post Assad. Islamist extremists will not be allowed to take over Syria, just as they were no allowed to take over Afghan, Iraq or Libya.

Sovereignty ends where terrorism begins.

I note that you left out Egypt and stating just who exactly is "in charge" of Lybia, Iraq and Afghanistan. It seems to me that you have given some very poor examples of "stable nations" that are not experiencing serious problems with "Islamist extremists" after the fall of their latest dictators. I recall that we still have plenty of U.S. troops in Afghanistan and now supply 70% of that nation's GDP - hardly the indication of moderates being "in charge".
 
I note that you left out Egypt and stating just who exactly is "in charge" of Lybia, Iraq and Afghanistan.

Egypt was not initiated and propagated by the West.
 
Egypt was not initiated and propagated by the West.

Nice dodge of the rest of my post! You are so clever. ;)

As to U.S. involvement in Egypt, not officially, but that calls into question the U.S. policy of supporting whoever happens to be "in charge" in our true "ally" - the Egyptian military. Even after the second military coup in Egypt we pretend that all is well and keep the aid money flowing.

"If I were the president, I would not want to take credit" for Mubarak's departure, said Boston University international relations professor Arthur Hulnick, a former Air Force and CIA intelligence officer.

Indeed, at his last news conference as White House spokesman, Robert Gibbs underscored that the challenges facing Egypt are "not going to be solved here. We will continue to play a constructive role in helping this process along but this started with the Egyptian people and it will end with the Egyptian people."

Hulnick said it wasn't just the White House that was left irate and flummoxed by Mubarak's surprise speech Thursday in which he defied all expectations that he would step down. Egypt's military was not willing to deal with the fallout in the streets sparked by Mubarak's stubborn refusal to leave.

"Somebody said to him 'This is a mistake. You're out.' I suspect it was one of the generals," Hulnick said.

Yes, administration officials and envoys worked the phones to gently push Mubarak out. And Defense Secretary Robert Gates did tell Egypt's defense minister, Field Marshal Mohamed Hussein Tantawi, that the United States would not lift a finger to keep Mubarak in power, Hulnick said.

Mubarak Resigns: Did Obama Help Oust Egyptian President?

The United States forgot the lessons of Iraq, namely, that it is easier to remove an Arab-state dictator by military means than it is to alter the internal balance of power and create a solid foundation for human rights.

Did US Choices Lead Egypt to its Current Situation?
 
Nice dodge of the rest of my post!

It's not a dodge. Equating Egypt with Western military intervention and UN control of a transition government is not legit.
 
It's not a dodge. Equating Egypt with Western military intervention and UN control of a transition government is not legit.

OK, then explain the wonderous UN success in Iraq, Libya and Afghanistan, and how Islamist extremists are no longer a problem in those fine nations.
 
OK, then explain the wonderous UN success in Iraq, Libya and Afghanistan, and how Islamist extremists are no longer a problem in those fine nations.

First a false-equivalence and now strawman/goal-shifting? That's very weak debate.

We're discussing Islamist extremists seizing control of the country. Islamist extremists are a problem everywhere in the world.
 
First a false-equivalence and now strawman/goal-shifting? That's very weak debate.

We're discussing Islamist extremists seizing control of the country. Islamist extremists are a problem everywhere in the world.

How could they do that with only 15-25% of some Rebels. :lamo
 
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