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Former Syrian VP: 'Assad regime is on brink of collapse'

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This is a very interesting article although the former Syrian VP has reasons for saying these things against the current Syrian president:

Oct. 22, 2006 22:09 | Updated Oct. 23, 2006 11:06
Former Syrian VP: 'Assad regime is on brink of collapse'
By ASSOCIATED PRESS
BEIRUT, Lebanon

An exiled former Syrian vice president said Sunday that President Bashar Assad's regime is on the brink of collapse and called on Syrians to prepare for the day when he will be overthrown.

Abdul-Halim Khaddam, who is wanted in Syria on treason charges, said in an address to the Syrian people that Assad's "oppressive" regime will soon be replaced with a democratic civil government, but he did not elaborate.

His address was on the occasion of Eid al-Fitr, the Islamic feast marking the end of the fasting month of Ramadan, and was broadcast on Lebanon's Future TV, an anti-Syrian station owned by the family of slain former Lebanese Prime Minister Rafik Hariri.

"Ask yourselves, my brothers, after six years of his taking over the administration of the country, what has Bashar Assad done except spread corruption, increase suffering and (take) wrong decisions that have led to weakening national unity and subjecting Syria to Arab and international isolation," Khaddam said.

"I assure you that the corrupt and tyrannical regime is on the brink of collapse and in the near future, the ruler will see the opportunists and hypocrites that rallied around him fleeing. He and his corrupt family and entourage will find themselves in the hands of justice," he added.

Khaddam's address was aired several days after Arab newspapers reported that the former vice president met with Saudi officials, including King Abdullah and Crown Prince Sultan.

An Arab diplomat said the meetings took place in Saudi Arabia last week and were significant because they send a message to Syria that the kingdom is upset at Syria's policies and may be exploring other options to deal with the Damascus regime.

The diplomat spoke on condition of anonymity because of the sensitivity of the subject.

Saudi-Syrian relations soured after Assad, in a speech following this summer's Israel-Hizbullah war, described leaders of Saudi Arabia, Egypt and Jordan as "half men" because they did not rally to Lebanon's defense.

The Saudis feel that Assad has broken away from these Arab countries to align himself with Iran.

A top member of Syria's ruling elite for nearly 30 years, Khaddam has lived with his family in France since he retired as vice president last summer.

He provoked an outcry last December when he told a pan-Arab satellite channel that Assad had threatened Hariri months before he was assassinated last year. Assad has denied the allegation.
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http://www.jpost.com/servlet/Satellite?cid=1159193497073&pagename=JPost/JPArticle/ShowFull
 
It would appear that people in Syria are tired of their current leader's pechant for making his country Iran's bitch.

:shock:
 
Arabs are such twits. It's not like replacing him with another theiving, murdering atavistic cretin and his gang will make any difference, but it's nice to know they murder each other ad infinitum, a poetically fitting end for terrorists. But of course since pipelines go through there, western taxpayers will have to foot the bill to support these ignorant venal vermin, just as they do faux 'palestinians', the ones who got thrown out their own state and now claim they need yet another one.:roll:
 
Vader said:
It would appear that people in Syria are tired of their current leader's pechant for making his country Iran's bitch.

:shock:
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THIS IS HORRIBLE NEWS FOR THE US!!!!!

Do you people have any ****ing clue what forces hafez assad kept under control?

Do you realize that SYRIA HAS WMD?????

Look at who we liberated in Iraq--****ing crazies and any new regime wil do exactly what saddam did to keep order. Luckily, Iraq had no WMD

But...I guess the exiles with an alterior motive are usually right. look at the iraq national congress
 
I reported post #3 to the moderators. I never reported posts before, but this time I think, it is necessary.
 
Thank you. I'm glad antisemites and other assorted apologists for genocidal terrorist thugs may find it offensive, especially European ones.:2wave:
 
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Picaro said:
Thank you. I'm glad antisemites and other assorted apologists for genocidal terrorist thugs may find it offensive, especially European ones.:2wave:
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I find it offensive, I don't know about the anti-Semites or the apologists you mentioned.
 
Picaro said:
Arabs are such twits. It's not like replacing him with another theiving, murdering atavistic cretin and his gang will make any difference, but it's nice to know they murder each other ad infinitum, a poetically fitting end for terrorists. But of course since pipelines go through there, western taxpayers will have to foot the bill to support these ignorant venal vermin, just as they do faux 'palestinians', the ones who got thrown out their own state and now claim they need yet another one.:roll:
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Moderator's Warning:
No RACIAL ABUSE will be tolerated in this forum Picaro. Consider this a warning!!
 
A comment on the nature of Arab politics isn't 'racially abusive', any more than a general comment on American, European, or Asian politics would be.

But, I do understand the European need to pander to terrorist supporters and their emotional needs by pretending it is, as cover for their growing antisemitism and avid support for terrorists murdering Israelis; I'm sure France isn't the only country vying for lucrative rocket sales to Hexbollah and other terrorist groups.
 
Joby said:
THIS IS HORRIBLE NEWS FOR THE US!!!!!

Do you people have any ****ing clue what forces hafez assad kept under control?

Do you realize that SYRIA HAS WMD?????

Look at who we liberated in Iraq--****ing crazies and any new regime wil do exactly what saddam did to keep order. Luckily, Iraq had no WMD

But...I guess the exiles with an alterior motive are usually right. look at the iraq national congress
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Indeed, who will they sell weapons to now?
 
GarzaUK said:
Moderator's Warning:
No RACIAL ABUSE will be tolerated in this forum Picaro. Consider this a warning!!
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So we are now to the point where a poster can announce in a very public fashion that they wish to complain about a statement and then their hand picked moderator does their bidding?

Is it really supposed to work like that?

Any complaints should be offered in PRIVATE and should then be discussed by the moderating team. Perhaps that has happened, but you give every appearance of acting on the behalf of a like minded poster, and especially insomuch as your moderation has never acted towards hate speech against Jewish people despite the copious quantity of such.

As a member of this site, I object to this very public display that appears more like collusion and less like an action by a team. It is the fact that the complaint was announced so publically and the responding moderator was hand picked that gives this appearance.
 
Gardener said:
So we are now to the point where a poster can announce in a very public fashion that they wish to complain about a statement and then their hand picked moderator does their bidding?

Is it really supposed to work like that?
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If the report is approved to have substance, yes, it is.

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http://www.debatepolitics.com/forum-rules/505-forum-rules.html#post252206

I don't see something in the board rules, which says, reports of posts, which are perceived to be inappropriate by a member, should not be announced.

What I see is rule 6.a, which says, concerns over moderators actions should be made by PM. It should be made by PM only the way I understand it.
 
and especially insomuch as your moderation has never acted towards hate speech against Jewish people despite the copious quantity of such.
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Indeed; a major reason I don't post or lurk here much. It doesn't really matter, all boards will have their pet posters who can bait and disinform with impunity, and then find a mod to indulge them. It's to be expected these days.
 
Picaro said:
Indeed; a major reason I don't post or lurk here much. It doesn't really matter, all boards will have their pet posters who can bait and disinform with impunity, and then find a mod to indulge them. It's to be expected these days.
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If you know boards which work this way, why do you continue to bait and disinform here, where your impunity is not guaranteed? Wouldn't it be smarter for you to become a pet poster at one of these boards you mentioned?
 
Joby said:
THIS IS HORRIBLE NEWS FOR THE US!!!!!

Do you people have any ****ing clue what forces hafez assad kept under control?

Do you realize that SYRIA HAS WMD?????

Look at who we liberated in Iraq--****ing crazies and any new regime wil do exactly what saddam did to keep order. Luckily, Iraq had no WMD

But...I guess the exiles with an alterior motive are usually right. look at the iraq national congress
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Relax, Joby, your terrorist buddies will always be there; they'll just be without any political influence.

;)
 
Gardener said:
So we are now to the point where a poster can announce in a very public fashion that they wish to complain about a statement and then their hand picked moderator does their bidding?

Is it really supposed to work like that?

Any complaints should be offered in PRIVATE and should then be discussed by the moderating team. Perhaps that has happened, but you give every appearance of acting on the behalf of a like minded poster, and especially insomuch as your moderation has never acted towards hate speech against Jewish people despite the copious quantity of such.

As a member of this site, I object to this very public display that appears more like collusion and less like an action by a team. It is the fact that the complaint was announced so publically and the responding moderator was hand picked that gives this appearance.
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I tend to agree. The original post did not have any overtly racist overtones, such as racial slurs, extreme conotations, or that type of deal. Furthermore, the complaintant is not exactly impartial; in fact, he is known to be very sympathetic to the terrorists and they're acts of atritition.

I will not argue the point with the mod; however, I think he should've been better aware of the souce of the complaint.

:smile:
 
Volker said:
I don't see something in the board rules, which says, reports of posts, which are perceived to be inappropriate by a member, should not be announced.
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Technically, one can announce that they have reported a specific post. That said though, as long as I have been here... doing so has always been considered to be 'poor form'.

I will also say that a Moderator has intervened. If anyone disagrees with this intervention, please discuss it with the relevant Mod or with the Lead Moderator (vauge) via private PM.
 
Gardener said:
So we are now to the point where a poster can announce in a very public fashion that they wish to complain about a statement and then their hand picked moderator does their bidding?

Is it really supposed to work like that?

Any complaints should be offered in PRIVATE and should then be discussed by the moderating team. Perhaps that has happened, but you give every appearance of acting on the behalf of a like minded poster, and especially insomuch as your moderation has never acted towards hate speech against Jewish people despite the copious quantity of such.

As a member of this site, I object to this very public display that appears more like collusion and less like an action by a team. It is the fact that the complaint was announced so publically and the responding moderator was hand picked that gives this appearance.
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Not sure what made you think that Garza was "hand-picked" to issue that warning...

All reported posts come to the mods in a forum. We respond to them as we see them. Garza happened to get to that one first, so he responded. I would have done exactly the same thing, and very much doubt that any other moderator would have hesitated either.

The decision to post a public response is up to the discretion of the mod in cases where he feels that it would remind the community that specific rules should not be broken. In this case, I agree with garza that it was quite appropriate.

I don't see how this would imply "collusion" or anything else, though I can see how volker's announcement that he would be reporting it could come across as pompous.

And as always, if you have any questions or concerns, feel free to pm any of us.
 
Picaro said:
A comment on the nature of Arab politics isn't 'racially abusive', any more than a general comment on American, European, or Asian politics would be.

But, I do understand the European need to pander to terrorist supporters and their emotional needs by pretending it is, as cover for their growing antisemitism and avid support for terrorists murdering Israelis; I'm sure France isn't the only country vying for lucrative rocket sales to Hexbollah and other terrorist groups.
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"Arabs are such twits"

Garza acted in the same manner any of us would have if we had gotten to the reported post first. The emboldened was what was unnecessary and "racial". It also happens to be very wrong. Most Arabs are victims of their culture, governments, dictators, and Radical element. I believe what you are angry with are the Arabs who assume to pervert the definitions of God and imprison their fellow Mulsims in oppression and indoctrinated hate, which leads to terror (internal and external).

And before you smart off to me, take some time to find out about me.


Gardener said:
So we are now to the point where a poster can announce in a very public fashion that they wish to complain about a statement and then their hand picked moderator does their bidding?
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The system posts the reported post for all Mods to see. Garza was simply the one that grabbed it. Were I logged in and not traveling across the country with a hotty, I would have addressed it as well. "Arabs are such twits" is the same as stating "Jews are such twits."
 
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GySgt said:

"Arabs are such twits"

The emboldened was what was unnecessary and "racial".

"Arabs are such twits" is the same as stating "Jews are such twits."
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Hey Gunny -
I can agree that it is unnecessary and wrong, but how is it racial? From what I know, if it made some silly connection between skin or hair color or something else then it would be racial. Or if it said "Only Arabs ...". Otherwise it just comes across as uninformed.
If that statement is racial, then a comment such as "Americans are stupid" or even "Dem/libs are stupid" might also be construed as racial.
ted
 
Hilarious ... a mod makes a blatantly false accusation, and several more weigh in and rally around in pathetic kneejerk attempts at washing the egg off their faces, and in the process pompously and loudly proclaim they have no clue whatsoever about the issue, and very proud of it as well. LOL

Otherwise it just comes across as uninformed.
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Oh, I'm well enough informed, much more so than at least 3 moderators, as anybody can easily verify.
 
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Picaro said:
Hilarious ... a mod makes a blatantly false accusation, and several more weigh in and rally around in pathetic kneejerk attempts at washing the egg off their faces, and in the process pompously and loudly proclaim they have no clue whatsoever about the issue, and very proud of it as well. LOL. Oh, I'm well enough informed, much more so than at least 3 moderators, as anybody can easily verify.
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I distinctly informed everyone how to approach any disagreement with a Moderator action in this post:

Tashah said:
I will also say that a Moderator has intervened. If anyone disagrees with this intervention, please discuss it with the relevant Mod or with the Lead Moderator (vauge) via private PM.
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Moderator's Warning:
Once again you choose to publicly harangue and disrespect numerous Moderators. So be it. Now you acquire the consequences.
 
Vader said:
Relax, Joby, your terrorist buddies will always be there; they'll just be without any political influence.

;)
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:lamo :lamo :lamo
 
Red_Dave said:
Indeed, who will they sell weapons to now?
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They've sold weapons before?

Strange we haven't run into any.

I think there army is too busy defending the american embassy, anyhow.
 
Vader said:
Relax, Joby, your terrorist buddies will always be there; they'll just be without any political influence.

;)
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whatever you guys say.

i guess syria is just bubbling over for democracy lie iraq was cicra 2002 :roll:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hama_massacre
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dujail
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_occupation_of_Fallujah
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sabra-Shatila_massacre

Why are you all sooooo stupid and naive?

If any lesson in Iraq was to be learned, it's that the ONLY way to maintain peace in the ethnic torn region is not with forgiveness but by the sword.

That's what Hafez al-Assad did and that's why nobody has challenged his clan since hama.

But you know what they say. "Better one week of Hama (or Dujail) that 15 years like lebanon"
 
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