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Jews against Zionism

Whip said:
Let's put everything in perspective here, shall we? The Israeli military is the fourth strongest military in the world. That's right. In the entire world Israel, a very small land, has the fourth largest military. This military, in part, occupies Palestinian lands. Interesting, isn't it?
The only interesting thing here is the magnitude of your propaganda. This is a perfect exemplar of why you must provide online citations for your quotes and claims. Your hard drive seems to be factually-challenged and biased.

List of countries by size of armed forces
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_size_of_Armed_Forces

1. People's Republic of China
2. United States
3. India
4. North Korea
5. Russia
6. Pakistan
7. South Korea
8. Turkey
9. Vietnam
10. Egypt
11. Iran
12. Myanmar
13. Indonesia
14. Thailand
15. Syria
16. Ukraine
17. Republic of China
18. Brazil
19. Germany
20. France
21. Japan
22. Italy
23. Saudi Arabia
24. Morocco
25. Mexico
26. United Kingdom
27. Greece
28. Israel
30. Spain
31. South Africa
 
Whip said:
You said in your previous post that Israel is a democracy. Many would argue against that, including most of those whom call themsleves Jews against Zionism. Since you live in Israel and are, I presume, an Israeli, would you describe Israel as an racist state that practices apartheid? I ask this because of the treatment Arabs receive at the hands of the majority.
20% of the Israeli population are Arabs who are citizens by all definition. The condition of their living is 10 times double better that the lives of Arabs in Arab countries. The Israeli Arabs have the vote and there are about 12 Arab parliament members in the Israeli parliament.

There are Israeli Arabs in all fields: lawyers, judges, physicians, major-generals in the army and even pilots in the Israeli Air Force, there was an Arab beauty queen in 1999. For years the editor of the main news edition in the Israeli television was an Arab in the name of Rafik Khalavi.

Couple of Israeli Arabs who didn't suffer from the racism that you tried to ascribe to Israel:

Israel’s first Bedouin envoy

Ismail Khaldi used to be a shepherd; now he’s been appointed Israeli consul in San Francisco Full article inside

The website of Ishmael Khaldi

Salim Joubran, judge in the Israeli Supreme Court.

Abdel Rahman Zuabi, judge in the Israeli Supreme Court

Walid Badir, football player who plays in the Israeli national team, there are more like him

Najwan Ghrayib, another famous football player.

Abbas Suan, another famoud football player

Imad Fares, Brig. General in the army

Yosef Mishlav, Major General in the army

Amos Yarkoni, Lieutenant Colonel in the army

Doctor Nasrallah, a physician

And the 12 Arab Parliament members who got high University degrees from Israeli universities.

How many Jews are living in Arab countries? How many of them are judges, parliament members, sportsmen in those Arab countries?

Israeli Arabs against Mubarak: Learn from Israel

Relatives of Sinai accident casualties hold demonstration opposite Egyptian embassy in Tel Aviv, claim that Egypt authorities failed in treating injured, protest lenient sentence handed to bus driver

Some 100 Israeli Arabs held a rally Wednesday outside the Egyptian embassy in Tel Aviv in protest of what they perceive as the country's failed handling of the traffic accident in Sinai which left 12 Israelis dead.

The demonstrators also protested the lenient sentence handed to the bus driver involved in the accident, who will serve only one year in prison.

"Learn from Israel what human dignity means. Human dignity is a primary value in Israel," the protesters shouted.

Participants in the rally held up signs saying, "12 killed, 12 months in jail – justice Egypt-style," and "State of Israel – don't abandon injured and killed citizens."
Full article inside

Whip said:
For instance the wall built to segregate (seperate) Arabs from Jews?
Whip, your level of debate is a level of 4 years old.

Wall there is also between Egypt and Libya, between Jordan and Syria, between US and Mexico and even between Saudi-Arabia and Iraq:

Saudis plan fence to block Iraq's terrorists

DUBAI, United Arab Emirates (AP) -- In a sign of regional concern over terrorism, Saudi Arabia is pushing ahead with plans to build a fence along its entire 560-mile (900-kilometer) border with Iraq to prevent terrorists from entering the kingdom from the chaotic north Full article inside

The "wall" is to prevent from these scums:

14 Years old!

Gun battle at Erez crossing; 2 terrorists killed

Palestinian men seized with bombs

Bomber nabbed en route to attack

Purim terror attack thwarted

Would-be bomber sentenced to 12 years

...to blow themselves in Israeli civil facilities.


Whip said:
Further, is it not true that Jews receive preferrential treatment to all others who reside in Israel? Is it also not true that it is in Israels agenda to drive all Arabs from all of what Jews consider the "promised land" making Israel an exclusively Jewish land?
Another blood libel from people like Whip.

Yes, Israel is the promised land. It's a Jewish land.

Why do you never ask who gave Egypt to the Egyptians, who gave Syria to the Syrians, who gave Jordan to the Jordanians, who gave Iraq to the Iraqis, who gave Iran to the Iranians? The answer: Nobody! They took these lands from the non Muslims illegaly, by violance.

According to you all these nations have the right to live in their countries EXCEPT the Jews who shouldn't have a country. It's obvious that you are speaking out of a racist point of view! If there is a nation which has legitimate rights on its land, it's the nation of Israel!


The Muslims have 22 countries (which they stole from the non Muslims), if they refuse to live their life between the river to the sea in peace and instead they are investing their life how to kill more Jews in the name of Jihad then they are more than welcome to return to the place that they came from in the first place: Saudi-Arabia!

The question, Whip, is how much time do you think we can stand your misleading posts here.
 
Have been able to read but unable to post (wonder why) on this board under "Post Reply".
Spent over an hour on a post under "Quick Reply" and it disappeared. Hopefully this little note goes through as a "Quick Reply".
 
Whip said:
Have been able to read but unable to post (wonder why) on this board under "Post Reply".
Spent over an hour on a post under "Quick Reply" and it disappeared. Hopefully this little note goes through as a "Quick Reply".
I looked under the hood at your comprehensive account status. There is absolutely nothing at this end that would impede your ability to 'Post Reply' or 'Quick Post'. No one else has reported such a technical problem. If there is indeed a problem concerning your ability to post, it resides at either your ISP or your computer/security settings.
 
Whip said:
Have been able to read but unable to post (wonder why) on this board under "Post Reply". Spent over an hour on a post under "Quick Reply" and it disappeared. Hopefully this little note goes through as a "Quick Reply".
http://www.debatepolitics.com/414380-post78.html

Still can't post here Whip? That's odd. You wrote the above whiney post on 10-22-06. Yet on 10-26-06 you authored this very typical thread:
Swiss minister wants to legalise genocide deniers

Typical for you that is. Why have you neglected this thread Whip? You authored it. Tired of taking a beating for your deceit? Looking for virgin ground because everyone in this thread is wise to you? Tired of having your lies and deceptions exposed? How can you possibly dance Whip? You're lame.
 
Vader said:
That wall was built to keep terrorist morons from attacking unarmed Israeli citizens. I am sorry you don't like have you terrorist buddies blocked out; however, you must accept that they brought it on themselves.

:shock:

Its the whole “victim hood” bullchit...

"We are stupid, lazy jackasses please feel sorry for us"
 
cherokee said:
Its the whole “victim hood” bullchit...

"We are stupid, lazy jackasses please feel sorry for us"

Yet another good point. :rofl

:)
 
jacob, from YOUR SOURCE

"Modern scholars have questioned the authenticity of this agreement (which exists in several different textual forms), claiming it to be the product of later jurists who attributed it to the caliph Umar in order to lend greater authority to their own opinions:"
 
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