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Are Palestinians descended from Hebrews?

Jabrosky

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Everyone calls Palestinians Arabs, but am I the only person who suspects that they're actually descended from Biblical Hebrews? People of many different ethnic backgrounds have converted to Islam and adopted the Arabic language and identity. You even have Black people in Sudan who identify as Arabs. For this reason, I think it likely that the so-called Palestinian "Arabs" are really Hebrews who switched religions and languages.

At any rate, Palestinians almost certainly look more like the Hebrews than lily-white European Jews.
 
I remember a genetic study being done a few years ago, which concluded that the Palestinians and the Jews are essentially the same, as far as genetics goes. The difference is cultural and religious.
 
Some of them are likely to be.

If you're a Biblical literalist, then they certainly are. We all are.
 
Some of them are likely to be.

If you're a Biblical literalist, then they certainly are. We all are.

A literalist may say we are all descended from Adam and Eve, however by the time the Bible establishes a people known as "Hebrews" there are clearly other separate groups. For example Abraham could be called the first Jew, but he was not a Hebrew and by his time other kinds of people populated the Earth.
 
Arent they both Semites?
 
Everyone calls Palestinians Arabs, but am I the only person who suspects that they're actually descended from Biblical Hebrews? People of many different ethnic backgrounds have converted to Islam and adopted the Arabic language and identity. You even have Black people in Sudan who identify as Arabs. For this reason, I think it likely that the so-called Palestinian "Arabs" are really Hebrews who switched religions and languages.

At any rate, Palestinians almost certainly look more like the Hebrews than lily-white European Jews.


What does a "Hebrew" look like?

Sweeping statements such as the topic header seldom describe anything accurately.

As those we now know as the Israelites or Judeans have only been around for about 3500 years, perhaps less, and humans have been living in the region for at least 50-60,000 years, it would be more accurate to say the ancient Jews (Hebrews) and those people we now call the Palestinians had common ancestors.

Archaeology of the late 20th C shows that the Israelites and Judeans split away from a people known as the Canaanites.
 
Everyone calls Palestinians Arabs, but am I the only person who suspects that they're actually descended from Biblical Hebrews? People of many different ethnic backgrounds have converted to Islam and adopted the Arabic language and identity. You even have Black people in Sudan who identify as Arabs. For this reason, I think it likely that the so-called Palestinian "Arabs" are really Hebrews who switched religions and languages.

At any rate, Palestinians almost certainly look more like the Hebrews than lily-white European Jews.


"Lily White" European Jews, eh?

What racist twaddle.
 
I've seen some European Jews who could pass for Hitler's Aryan ideal. One of them went to junior high with me.

Your rhetoric is starting to sound like it can pass for Hitler's ideal as well.
 
Dontcha know that you can't be racist against Lily White folks?

Cause dey da Man!!

Especially those lily white European jews!
 
I was under the impression that many Arabs considered themselves the descendants of Ishmael before Islam even arrived on the scene. It's certainly the belief in modern day Islam.
 
Moderator's Warning:
All threads involving Israel and Palestine should be placed in the Middle East forum. Note that from this point forward, Martial Law does apply.
 
Everyone calls Palestinians Arabs, but am I the only person who suspects that they're actually descended from Biblical Hebrews? People of many different ethnic backgrounds have converted to Islam and adopted the Arabic language and identity. You even have Black people in Sudan who identify as Arabs. For this reason, I think it likely that the so-called Palestinian "Arabs" are really Hebrews who switched religions and languages.

At any rate, Palestinians almost certainly look more like the Hebrews than lily-white European Jews.

There are probably some other groups mixed in and that is the case with the various Jewish peoples as well. What is little known is that for a long time Jews proselytized with such effectiveness that at one point a fifth of the population of Rome was Jewish and Rome banned proselytizing to prevent the population from growing further. As Jews are generally expected to marry other Jews this has embedded their original Middle-Eastern roots in most populations, but I would not be surprised if the Israeli Jews are more closely related to those populations where the communities were present prior to making their Aliyah.

Your rhetoric is starting to sound like it can pass for Hitler's ideal as well.

Where exactly in Mein Kampf did Hitler say "Jews are too white"? I am pretty sure that would be antithetical to the whole Aryan narrative.
 
The Palestinians are a hodge-podge of mostly Muslim migrants who moved to Palestine over the last 1,200 years.

this includes: native Palestinians, Arabs, Berbers, Turks, Kurds, Bosnians, Egyptians, Persians, and others.
 
The Palestinians are a hodge-podge of mostly Muslim migrants who moved to Palestine over the last 1,200 years.

this includes: native Palestinians, Arabs, Berbers, Turks, Kurds, Bosnians, Egyptians, Persians, and others.

While it is a common tactic to demean and diminish the other side's local ethnic heritage, it is usually the case that the population within an area maintains prominent lineage to the original inhabitants. No doubt immigrants to the area interbred with the local population, but the Palestinian population inevitably retains a significant level of heritage from the Hebrews.
 
There are probably some other groups mixed in and that is the case with the various Jewish peoples as well. What is little known is that for a long time Jews proselytized with such effectiveness that at one point a fifth of the population of Rome was Jewish and Rome banned proselytizing to prevent the population from growing further. As Jews are generally expected to marry other Jews this has embedded their original Middle-Eastern roots in most populations, but I would not be surprised if the Israeli Jews are more closely related to those populations where the communities were present prior to making their Aliyah.

I'm aware there was a quite a bit of reactionary Jewish proselytisation when Christianity arrived, but a fifth of the population? You got a link?
 
arabs and jews are relatives ,as far as I know.just religion separates them..but ashkenazis are said to descend from khazar turks
 
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...but the Palestinian population inevitably retains a significant level of heritage from the Hebrews.

there is no evidence of that.

may Jews were sold as slaves after the Roman destruction of Judea, and many more chose to move into the rest of the Roman empire. there is simply no evidence that the Palestinians retain significant Jewish heritage.
 
arabs and jews are relatives ,as far as I know.just religion separates them..but ashkenazis are said to descend from khazar turks

there is no cultural or historical evidence for this.

nevermind the fact that Ashkenazi Jews don't look like Turks.
 
The Palestinians are a hodge-podge of mostly Muslim migrants who moved to Palestine over the last 1,200 years.

this includes: native Palestinians, Arabs, Berbers, Turks, Kurds, Bosnians, Egyptians, Persians, and others.

kurds are closer to you than to me:2razz:

and there isnt any bosnian in that region..
 
again, many Muslims throughout the centuries have migrated to Palestine, as it is the Holy Land.

yes but ethnically kurds are said to be relatives of jews,as far as I know..
 
yes but ethnically kurds are said to be relatives of jews,as far as I know..

there are Jews all over the world, are you saying that Kurds are relatives of ALL of these Jews?

they are related to the Spaniards who have Jewish blood from the time of the Inquisition? They are related to the Lemba Jews?

they are related to the Cochin Jews? the Jews of Tunisia & Italy?
 
there are Jews all over the world, are you saying that Kurds are relatives of ALL of these Jews?

they are related to the Spaniards who have Jewish blood from the time of the Inquisition? They are related to the Lemba Jews?

they are related to the Cochin Jews? the Jews of Tunisia & Italy?

Are these Jews related to eachother? If they are, then the Kurds could be.
 
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