Thread: Co-op boycotts exports from Israel's West Bank settlements

one of my friends from israel, a fairly popular guy in the settlements, Eliyokhim Cohen, said if he had it his way they'd never stop boycotting, the palestinians shouldn't have anything made by jews.

Nationalists and communists agreeing on something, interesting.

Originally Posted by Red_Dave

Show me where i said anything in support of the Chinese government. I've called for its overthrow more then once on here. Its simply the case that i don't have the time to list every state and organisation that i opposse on here and those that tend to come up are those that are more contentious (at least to americans) If i was on a forum full of people proclaiming that China was the only democracy in the far east then i would probably be more vocal. But more to the point it would be less vulnerable to a boycott being the almost the largest economy in the world.

no, its just not that convenient for people to boycott Chinese merchandise which is ridiculously, just like I never heard a boycott Israel petition that calls people to stop using intel processors or windows 7, that would be a good day for apple

Originally Posted by ido_

no, its just not that convenient for people to boycott Chinese merchandise which is ridiculously, just like I never heard a boycott Israel petition that calls people to stop using intel processors or windows 7, that would be a good day for apple

edit: "its just not that convenient for people to boycott Chinese merchandise which is ridiculously cheap"

Originally Posted by Gardener

Decent enough cause, but the passage quoted is extremely hackneyed and predictably dogmatic, thus displaying the sort of world view that is simply the flip side of that of the settlers.

You truly believe 'Settlers' don't hold a dogmatic view?????? Seriously???

Paul

Originally Posted by gunner

You truly believe 'Settlers' don't hold a dogmatic view?????? Seriously???

Paul

most of them don't, they are very down to earth and reasonable

Originally Posted by gunner

You truly believe 'Settlers' don't hold a dogmatic view?????? Seriously???

Paul

Considering that I just indicated they were dogmatic, how you could misinterpret is anybody's guess.

Originally Posted by DarkWizard12

one of my friends from israel, a fairly popular guy in the settlements, Eliyokhim Cohen, said if he had it his way they'd never stop boycotting, the palestinians shouldn't have anything made by jews.

Nationalists and communists agreeing on something, interesting.

Made by Jews? Here we go. The issue is with the Israeli government and Jews worldwide are thrown in. This is an example again of how supposed
actions designed to protest or criticize Israeli government policies are designed to punish ALL Jews.

Is it possible for us all when discussing Israel not to interchange criticism of Israeli government policies with all Jews? This response is not directed at the poster but the
person he is repeating and others who do the same thing.

Also DarkWizard when it comes to JEWS the extreme right and left use the exact same anti-semitic references. Always have. Not sure where you have been all you have
to do is read it on this forum.

Originally Posted by Red_Dave

If you wish to make these accusations then there is an appropriate forum for you to do so, with evidence of course. On the contrary ive been very critical of some of these organisations/states. Also which North Korean goods do you suggest I boycott?

This is the appropriate forum and thread. You raise boycotts of Israel I raise the issue as to why you are so selective in who you suggest boycotts against. I used China and North Korea as obvious examples buit in this specific case it would be more appropriate if you showed your credibility for your righteous calls to boycott horrid regimes by suggesting boycotts of China, Sudan, Iran, Syria which you never have. You save your comments only for Israel. I have never heard you once call for a boycotting of Hamas or Hezbollah. You have no problem with them receiving weapons from North Korea.

Would you have me believe you are not aware Nporth Korea ships missiles and other weapons and nuclear weapon technology to Iran, Syria, Hezbollah, Sudan? Really now.

Evidence? Read your own posts back RED Dave.


Regards,

Greenish,Pinkish, Greyish moi

Originally Posted by Mika-El

Also DarkWizard when it comes to JEWS the extreme right and left use the exact same anti-semitic references. Always have. Not sure where you have been all you have
to do is read it on this forum.

Amazingly few people recognize this, I think at least partly due to the slightly different tenor of the rhetoric. In general, the right wing antisemites are more direct and up front about it, focus on Jews and are quite consistent. The left wing rhetoric hits at the same themes but substitutes Israel for Jews when indulging in the hatred, and couples this hatred with denial the they are hateful. It is ISRAEL (the collective Jew) that is pulling the strings, acting only in its best interest, cannot be trusted, is inherently dishonest, and has undue power and control in the left wing antisemite's playbook. THe themes are the same, but the substitution of the collective Jew for the individual allows them the illusion that there is nothing antisemitic about their antisemitism.

Originally Posted by ido_

most of them don't, they are very down to earth and reasonable

Considering their living within communities that is (rightfully/wrongly) subject of one of the most contentious issues surrounding the Israeli/Palestinian issue, I would say, a dogmatic attitude is a prerequsite for such involvment.

Originally Posted by Gardener

Decent enough cause, but the passage quoted is extremely hackneyed and predictably dogmatic, thus displaying the sort of world view that is simply the flip side of that of the settlers.

This is what you actually said. Meaning, as ido interpreted it also, that the settlers held a diametrically held view. Thus, you asserted as not being 'dogmatic'.

Originally Posted by Gardener

Considering that I just indicated they were dogmatic, how you could misinterpret is anybody's guess.

So, you did not in fact indicate, infer, or state they were dogmatic.

Paul