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    Hamas armed wing ends truce with Israel

    The Qassam brigades, the military wing of Hamas, announced that they were no longer committed to its de facto ceasefire with Israel in effect since more than two years ago.

    "There is no longer any truce with the enemy," said the statement broadcast over a Hamas radio station early on Saturday.

    Rockets have been launched from Gaza into Israel and Israeli aircraft have struck targets in the Palestinian territory in the back-and-forth aftermath of deadly attacks a day before in southern Israel.

    At least eleven Palestinians have been killed and 30 were injured in the past 24 hours by Israeli air strikes on the Gaza Strip which began on Thursday. Four Israelis have been injured by rockets fired from Gaza.


    Video and more at: Hamas armed wing ends truce with Israel - Middle East - Al Jazeera English

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    Re: Hamas armed wing ends truce with Israel

    Quote Originally Posted by TheDemSocialist View Post
    The Qassam brigades, the military wing of Hamas, announced that they were no longer committed to its de facto ceasefire with Israel in effect since more than two years ago.

    "There is no longer any truce with the enemy," said the statement broadcast over a Hamas radio station early on Saturday.

    Rockets have been launched from Gaza into Israel and Israeli aircraft have struck targets in the Palestinian territory in the back-and-forth aftermath of deadly attacks a day before in southern Israel.

    At least eleven Palestinians have been killed and 30 were injured in the past 24 hours by Israeli air strikes on the Gaza Strip which began on Thursday. Four Israelis have been injured by rockets fired from Gaza.


    Video and more at: Hamas armed wing ends truce with Israel - Middle East - Al Jazeera English

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    I have a thought, with what is happening in Syria, Lybia, Irans encroachment and meddling, the saudis not happy with us AND Iran, Turkey thinking of getting involved in Syria as a buffer zone, and their actions against the Kurds ..all of that, possible the condemnation of the Israeli's , with the attacks and killings that went on will not be as loud and stringent as it has in the past when the israelis took action in Gaza.

    Especially if Hamas starts sending their own rockets over to Israel and don't forget the Egyptian now in the Sinai supposedly trying to control those terrorist there.

    If hamas does continue the attacks , I beleive it will give the Israelis the opportunity to deal with the military wing in a strong way, strong nough that after a shhort time they might change their mind as they lose more and more fighters and more important leadership, I belive the Israeli's will now go after their leadership, I beleive they know who the majority of their leadership is and where most of them can be found.

    It will be interesting to see if pressure will be put on Fatah and Abbas and the PA leadership to get involved...while they migh lose some support by Palastinian by siting it out, I think in the long run , it will be to their benefit to sit this out. IMHO of course..you did ask for thoughts, comments .

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    Re: Hamas armed wing ends truce with Israel

    Quote Originally Posted by nleigh View Post
    I have a thought, with what is happening in Syria, Lybia, Irans encroachment and meddling, the saudis not happy with us AND Iran, Turkey thinking of getting involved in Syria as a buffer zone, and their actions against the Kurds ..all of that, possible the condemnation of the Israeli's , with the attacks and killings that went on will not be as loud and stringent as it has in the past when the israelis took action in Gaza.
    Perhaps that is what Israel thinks and with papers appearing not to give proper information concerning this - that is that the Gazans appear not responsible for the Eliat killings, hence no reason for Israel to kill in Gaza, you would appear to have a point right now.

    There have of course already been demonstrations

    Anti-Israel protests planned after terror attack | The Jewish Chronicle

    and protests are always slow in getting going.

    Quote Originally Posted by nleigh View Post

    Especially if Hamas starts sending their own rockets over to Israel
    You appear to have a double standard here. Israel responded to an Al Qaeda attack by killing civilians and militants in Gaza but if Gaza responds to an 'unprovoked' killing of her own this is wrong? The response from Gaza was typical and to be expected, though I think they would better have served themselves by restraint at this time.

    Quote Originally Posted by nleigh View Post
    and don't forget the Egyptian now in the Sinai supposedly trying to control those terrorist there.
    Exactly and it would appear it is because of this situation that human beings in Gaza have been killed. Why do you not think they have a right to be as angry as Israel at this unprovoked killing?

    Quote Originally Posted by nleigh View Post

    If hamas does continue the attacks , I beleive it will give the Israelis the opportunity to deal with the military wing in a strong way, strong nough that after a shhort time they might change their mind as they lose more and more fighters and more important leadership, I belive the Israeli's will now go after their leadership, I beleive they know who the majority of their leadership is and where most of them can be found.
    We need to put this in context. Israel does not want the UN vote in September. Further Israel was having a hard time with ever increasing 'tent protests'. I might be forgiven for thinking the incursions into Gaza when there was no evidence they were responsible, might be provocation to start a diversion from the Palestinians move towards UN recognition and increasing social unrest within Israel.



    Quote Originally Posted by nleigh View Post
    It will be interesting to see if pressure will be put on Fatah and Abbas and the PA leadership to get involved...while they migh lose some support by Palastinian by siting it out, I think in the long run , it will be to their benefit to sit this out. IMHO of course..you did ask for thoughts, comments .
    Not interesting. We are dealing with the lives of thousands of people. It is much more important than 'interesting'. Alan Hart expands here on an article by David Hearst in the Guardian
    There is an Arabic word you come across a lot when Palestinians talk about their future. Sumud means steadfastness, and it has turned into a strategy: when the imbalance of power is so pronounced, the most important thing to do is to stay put. Staying put against overwhelming odds is regarded as a victory.”

    Hearst didn’t offer any substantial explanation of why Palestinian steadfastness is a victory, so I will.
    http://www.alanhart.net/%E2%80%9Ccou...%9D/#more-1569
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    Re: Hamas armed wing ends truce with Israel

    Quote Originally Posted by alexa View Post
    Perhaps that is what Israel thinks and with papers appearing not to give proper information concerning this - that is that the Gazans appear not responsible for the Eliat killings, hence no reason for Israel to kill in Gaza, you would appear to have a point right now.
    Wait a sec, aren't you the one who said it weren't Palestinians who butchered the Fogel family?
    If the IDF decided to react and attack the PLC high command then they probably had the intelegence to attack them, otherwise why attacking the PLC and not Hamas or Islamic Jihad? But yea, if the IDF don't want to tell alexa where it gets its intelegence from its probably just another lie, you know, like when they lied about the Fogel family butchers.
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    Re: Hamas armed wing ends truce with Israel

    Quote Originally Posted by TheDemSocialist View Post
    The Qassam brigades, the military wing of Hamas, announced that they were no longer committed to its de facto ceasefire with Israel in effect since more than two years ago.

    "There is no longer any truce with the enemy," said the statement broadcast over a Hamas radio station early on Saturday.

    Rockets have been launched from Gaza into Israel and Israeli aircraft have struck targets in the Palestinian territory in the back-and-forth aftermath of deadly attacks a day before in southern Israel.

    At least eleven Palestinians have been killed and 30 were injured in the past 24 hours by Israeli air strikes on the Gaza Strip which began on Thursday. Four Israelis have been injured by rockets fired from Gaza.


    Video and more at: Hamas armed wing ends truce with Israel - Middle East - Al Jazeera English

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    news flash, Israel is being attacked by rockets at least once a month for the past 10 years. what cease fire are they talking about?
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    Re: Hamas armed wing ends truce with Israel

    Quote Originally Posted by ido_ View Post
    news flash, Israel is being attacked by rockets at least once a month for the past 10 years. what cease fire are they talking about?
    it's the imaginary cease fire they sell to the dogmatic leftists living in the west who support them to make it easier to show such support.
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    Re: Hamas armed wing ends truce with Israel

    This evening 1 Israeli died, 2 in critical condition and 2 more severly injured in Beer-Sheva. In the morning a rocket which fell in Ashdod injured 2 Israelies severly, in the afternoon another rocket in Ashdod injured 3 Palestinian illegal workers one of them severly injured.
    If only i'd have a dollar for every time I read the phrase "harmless rockets" in this forum...
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    Re: Hamas armed wing ends truce with Israel

    Quote Originally Posted by ido_ View Post
    This evening 1 Israeli died, 2 in critical condition and 2 more severly injured in Beer-Sheva. In the morning a rocket which fell in Ashdod injured 2 Israelies severly, in the afternoon another rocket in Ashdod injured 3 Palestinian illegal workers one of them severly injured.
    If only i'd have a dollar for every time I read the phrase "harmless rockets" in this forum...
    Do they know if they are coming from Hamas or the other groups... if Hamas I would expect heavy concentration of attacks on their people and areas of control..munition supplys and such..Is there talk about possible going into Gaza with land forces..or are they keeping quiet about that..Has anything been happening with Hezbellah in Lebonan o support these attacks..?

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    Re: Hamas armed wing ends truce with Israel

    Quote Originally Posted by ido_ View Post
    This evening 1 Israeli died, 2 in critical condition and 2 more severly injured in Beer-Sheva. In the morning a rocket which fell in Ashdod injured 2 Israelies severly, in the afternoon another rocket in Ashdod injured 3 Palestinian illegal workers one of them severly injured.
    If only i'd have a dollar for every time I read the phrase "harmless rockets" in this forum...
    As this is essentially a war started by the duly elected government of Gaza why is the Israeli response so timid.

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    Re: Hamas armed wing ends truce with Israel

    Quote Originally Posted by nleigh View Post
    Do they know if they are coming from Hamas or the other groups... if Hamas I would expect heavy concentration of attacks on their people and areas of control..munition supplys and such..Is there talk about possible going into Gaza with land forces..or are they keeping quiet about that..Has anything been happening with Hezbellah in Lebonan o support these attacks..?
    The PLC took responsibility on the attack on Beer-Sheva yesterday, I don't know about the attack on Ashdod.
    BTW, the barrage on Beer-Sheva included 6 rockets, 3 missed, 2 intercepted by Iron Dome, the last one was missed by the Iron Dome system and had a fatal result.
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