No i was talking in general right now. Sorry for the confusion. I agree the US is quite a ways away from that i think they need to catch up on this system that seems to be doing a lot of good in the world called proportional representation. To answer this quetsion: " I'm curious what do you mean by reforming capitalism, do you want to reform it to be like Norway and leave it at that or do you prefer to go further and try to eliminate capitalism entirely?" What i mean by "reforming capitalism" is that i believe that a violent revolution is not needed in the US especially right now. I believe that we can reach socialism through the ballot box. I beleive Castro even said that guerrilla warfare is not needed throughout most parts of the world. Look at Venezeula as an example and the strides they are making and have made through democracy and the ballot box.
Sense April 13th i believe.
So just curious how long have you been on this site?
I'm all for proportional representation in the U.S. I thought you were asking about a post-revolutionary socialist state. Sadly the U.S. is a long way from that. I agree with you on allowing multiple parties on the stage, because the system we have no sucks no matter who wins. I'm curious what do you mean by reforming capitalism, do you want to reform it to be like Norway and leave it at that or do you prefer to go further and try to eliminate capitalism entirely? Personally I'm all for trying to create a system like Norway and Sweden's for the U.S. because it is much better than our current system, but I don't think that should be our end point. Our ultimate goal should be socialism.
Well i am all for it. I do not believing in banning parties based on their views. I however believe that every party and their candidates should have a fair chance of getting their voices heard based on proportional representation in the house. I believe that at least 4 or 5 parties should be allowed on the national debate scale for campaigning so they can have a fair shot and have their voices heard. I believe we can "reform" this capitalist system.
Trotsky said this in the essay I linked you: The bureaucracy replaced the soviets as class organs with the fiction of universal electoral rights – in the style of Hitler-Goebbels. It is necessary to return to the soviets not only their free democratic form but also their class content. As once the bourgeoisie and kulaks were not permitted to enter the soviets, so now it is necessary to drive the bureaucracy and the new aristocracy out of the soviets. In the soviets there is room only for representatives of the workers, rank-and-file collective farmers peasants and Red Army men.
Democratization of the soviets is impossible without legalization of soviet parties. The workers and peasants themselves by their own free vote will indicate what parties they recognize as soviet parties.
I think we do need a muti-party system, however I am hesitant to allow capitalist parties because I fear if you give them a little power they will take it all for themselves. I'll quote from that essay that I linked you to give you Trotsky's view which does agree with mine and helped me form my views. What do you think about muti-party systems?
Hahah a prophet.. He may be one to use leftists but to others he was a "red devil".
Do you believe in democracy with a like a multi party system or do you believe there should only be one party? Or maybe something else? Your thoughts?
Thanks I'll check those out. And yes when it comes to history Trotsky was very good at understanding it. However, he may have been even better at predicting the future such as when he predicted that if the Stalinist state was replaced it would eventually lead to a capitalist restoration. He isn't called Prophet for nothing.
Not a problem.
And writings yes i have a couple saved in a political file here: Syndicalism - an introduction | libcom.org Socialized Syndicalist: What is Syndicalism?
Ohh i love the marxist archive. Great site with many great stuff!
Ill take a look at that asap man. Thanks for the link.
Ive read some of Trotskys writings but not a bunch. I must say i love his view on history, he had a great mind. To bad he did not come out on top... Stalins victims probably would say the same.