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Mike Freeman's 10-Point Stance: Kaepernick Anger Intense in NFL Front Offices

Way too many people making this about veterans and the military. What he is doing is a strictly symbolic act. So what it means comes from the intent of the person doing the symbolic act. So if you are pissed because you think he is being unfair to police officers then I understand. I disagree, but I understand. But if you are pissed because you think he is disrespecting the military and veterans who died for this country then your outrage is misplaced. This particular symbolic act has nothing to do with the military.
 
Way too many people making this about veterans and the military. What he is doing is a strictly symbolic act. So what it means comes from the intent of the person doing the symbolic act. So if you are pissed because you think he is being unfair to police officers then I understand. I disagree, but I understand. But if you are pissed because you think he is disrespecting the military and veterans who died for this country then your outrage is misplaced. This particular symbolic act has nothing to do with the military.

sorry....but it does

the flag is a symbol for our country, and the national anthem is our "national" song

it may mean more to some people than others, but disrespecting it is disrespecting the country where you live....where you earn those big bucks, and where you got the opportunity to make yourself an NFL player

that doesnt happen everywhere....

you got a beef...wonderful....protest....say what you want to say

especially this guy....he could have picked up a phone and had a press conference full of reporters

he didnt have to disrespect the country to get his statement out there

that is where he screwed up royally
 
As usual, Kapernicks timing is off. It's not cool anymore, especially if you are a loser on a team who doesn't want to be a loser team.

To paraphrase a talking head "The the realities of salary, performance, protest and optics all merge into the same lane". And there is no room for an underachieving, over paid, pampered prince who farted out a social conscience on fine morning. He doesn't rate enough to wash Joe Montana's jock. Kapernick is the sweaty testicle of the NFL, as Phys251 would say.

As they say, he's now "radioactive". That is worse than "on waivers". LOL
 
Do you ever wonder what role models might empower a teenager to tell a teacher to F-off?

I hope Kapernick leaves the field in a wheelchair. It would be poetic justice.

Your pathological hatred for free Americans exercising their constitutional rights duly noted.
 
Wow. Some dunce thinks he's a 'traitor' for exercising his rights.

Shows the general level of stupidity in the NFL

I am thinking many of those with nothing but scorn for Kaepernick also own red hats that say America isn't great.
 
I am thinking many of those with nothing but scorn for Kaepernick also own red hats that say America isn't great.
There are many liberals that find his actions disgusting. Some just wrong minded. And...there are many military people that disagree with him but respect his right to do so. Im one of those. And no...I dont own a red hat.

The biggest problem with his position is that it is just so completely wrong. Not just a little wrong...but in every way shape and form wrong. His 'statement' is childish and ill informed at best.
 
in some ways i can understand that

take Ray Rice for example.....absolutely coldcocked his fiance/wife on camera....despised for the action, and then given a chance to make amends.
But he didnt disrespect the "entire" country....and that is how they see Kaepernick's transgression

Way too many families have sat at a funeral, and been handed a folded flag by an officer of the military....it is a very solemn moment....i have experienced it many times in my life as i grew up around the military, and then served myself

To then see a man who "seems" to have it all....an NFL career, a hundred million dollar contract, and a dream life disrespect the flag their families members died for? yeah....tough pill to swallow

and not easy forgiven....

How is exercising one's constitutional rights in order to bring attention to injustice disrespecting the flag? If anything it is the opposite.

And yes I do wonder if a white player sitting during the anthem would get as vitriolic a response.

And why is the flag itself even that big a deal anyway? This worship and idolatry of the flag we see today is largely a 20th century invention, specifically intended to suppress dissent. For most of this nations history the flag was not only not a big deal but in fact for much of the flag's history there was not even a universally agreed standard design.
 
The biggest problem with his position is that it is just so completely wrong. Not just a little wrong...but in every way shape and form wrong. His 'statement' is childish and ill informed at best.

There is a sizeable chunk of the population that would say otherwise.
 
How is exercising one's constitutional rights in order to bring attention to injustice disrespecting the flag? If anything it is the opposite.

And yes I do wonder if a white player sitting during the anthem would get as vitriolic a response.

And why is the flag itself even that big a deal anyway? This worship and idolatry of the flag we see today is largely a 20th century invention, specifically intended to suppress dissent. For most of this nations history the flag was not only not a big deal but in fact for much of the flag's history there was not even a universally agreed standard design.

wow...you have to repeat things a lot around here for people

for a LOT of people, the flag represents more than a piece of cloth

maybe to you it means nothing....bully for you if that is the case

maybe the national anthem means nothing to you....again, bully for you

he had OTHER ways to get his message out....instead he chose to act like a spoiled brat, and disrespect the country and the flag

and i dont care if he had been brown, yellow, black or white....i would call out the person exactly the same way

he is an american....respect your country

protest if you must....find another way
 
I've already pointed out that most fans don't stand at attention but I'm pretty sure most backup don't as well. Will take a look this weekend
 
wow...you have to repeat things a lot around here for people

for a LOT of people, the flag represents more than a piece of cloth

maybe to you it means nothing....bully for you if that is the case

maybe the national anthem means nothing to you....again, bully for you

he had OTHER ways to get his message out....instead he chose to act like a spoiled brat, and disrespect the country and the flag

and i dont care if he had been brown, yellow, black or white....i would call out the person exactly the same way

he is an american....respect your country

protest if you must....find another way

I don't see that in the Constitution anywhere.
 
There is a sizeable chunk of the population that would say otherwise.
They are also completely wrong.

A country is not racist. Some people can be. Police brutality is not tolerated. SOME police brutality is tolerated. Cops are not prejudiced bigots that go around killing with ruthless abandon. SOME cops may be. Law Enforcement is not corrupt. SOME law enforcement agencies may be.

Would you be comfortable with the statements "black people are criminals"? Would you be comfortable with the statement "black people are racist"? If people viewed the troubles that black America faces with the same kind of bigotry the BLdM movement views law enforcement everyone would be losing their minds.

Are there obstacles for success in this country for some people? Sure...but if you are honest you would see that as a universal concern...not a race problem.
 
They are also completely wrong.

A country is not racist. Some people can be. Police brutality is not tolerated. SOME police brutality is tolerated. Cops are not prejudiced bigots that go around killing with ruthless abandon. SOME cops may be. Law Enforcement is not corrupt. SOME law enforcement agencies may be.

Would you be comfortable with the statements "black people are criminals"? Would you be comfortable with the statement "black people are racist"? If people viewed the troubles that black America faces with the same kind of bigotry the BLdM movement views law enforcement everyone would be losing their minds.

Are there obstacles for success in this country for some people? Sure...but if you are honest you would see that as a universal concern...not a race problem.

So as long as there is at least one person who is not an overt racist it isn't a national problem that an entire segment of the population are routinely treated as 2nd class citizens.

Got it.
 
So as long as there is at least one person who is not an overt racist it isn't a national problem that an entire segment of the population are routinely treated as 2nd class citizens.

Got it.
Thats simply a stupid interpretation of what was said. As for anyone being treated as second class citizens...at some point,you have to own your own actions.
 
It was heart warming to see Colin joined in protest by another team mate and also a Seattle Seahawk and a vet. Hopefully this gains more traction and the anthem is banned from all domestic sporting events.
 
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