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Anyone else wish they would make leisure activity robots?

wolfsgirl said:
I'm sorry, I was under the impression that we tried to HELP victims. Helping includes therapy if needed. But I guess you are right, we should just giver them robots to stay home and play cards with rather than try to help them get out into society.
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How is being gay a victim?
 
Ancient Herald said:
You can already play cards on the smart phone or tablets.

Against the computer or against somebody else.

And the internet also has discussion forums to where you can go to discuss things that interest you if you have nobody else to discuss things with.

So you don't really need a robot to play cards or games with. You can already find these places on any personal computer device.

Now, if you need sex and can't get any, well, maybe a robot is the way to go. But there are also websites where you can buy some realist love dolls these days or toys that can help you get a release.
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Sitting in front of a computer all day is not really teaching you how to talk to people though, its just a computer.
 
MisterLogical said:
Okay so if someone is picking on you because you have a gay, its your fault for being GAY? No, you were a target since someone intolerant decided to be a jerk. You are not the one who needs therapy, unless you are saying them being gay, was asking to be a target. That is really messed up. The point was the robot could do stuff and discuss stuff with the child that they cant discuss with other people. So they dont feel like they are alone. So no being picked on does not mean you need to go to therapy for being an unlucky target. I dont see why you would blame the victim.

If the child likes science but everyone thinks that makes him a nerd, he can discuss stuff with the robot. Since the robot will discuss it with him and not want to beat him up for liking something geeky. Than when they are in an environment that is more constructive, they still understand how to discuss things with people.
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Please READ and COMPREHEND.

No one is saying that it is the person being bullied fault that they are bullied.

Sometimes when people are bullied it CAUSES them to have social anxiety, and other issues. The BULLYING causes the issues.

When VICTIMS of bullying have issues CAUSED BY BULLYING, sometimes treatment can be helpful to the victims.

Example: Bob was bullied for being a really smart kid, this caused him to have social anxiety issues later in life. Bob got therapy for the social anxiety issues that the bully caused, and is now much better in social situations.

Again, no one is BLAMING the person who got bullied.
 
MisterLogical said:
Sitting in front of a computer all day is not really teaching you how to talk to people though, its just a computer.
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Talking to a robot doesn't teach you to talk to a person either, it is just a computer in a humanoid form.
 
wolfsgirl said:
Talking to a robot doesn't teach you to talk to a person either, it is just a computer in a humanoid form.
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Exactly, that means ACTUALLY TALKING. There is a difference between talking in person vs typing.

Its kind of like Skype vs typing on a forum. Skype you CHAT, on a forum you type. So no its two totally different things.
 
wolfsgirl said:
Please READ and COMPREHEND.

No one is saying that it is the person being bullied fault that they are bullied.

Sometimes when people are bullied it CAUSES them to have social anxiety, and other issues. The BULLYING causes the issues.

When VICTIMS of bullying have issues CAUSED BY BULLYING, sometimes treatment can be helpful to the victims.

Example: Bob was bullied for being a really smart kid, this caused him to have social anxiety issues later in life. Bob got therapy for the social anxiety issues that the bully caused, and is now much better in social situations.

Again, no one is BLAMING the person who got bullied.
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People do not always become Victims since they have issues, they develop issues since they were a victim. The point of allowing them to socialize with the robot is to avoid them becoming a victim. Sorry to say but if you send a victim to therapy you are not fixing their problem. If they are still in a bad environment you are not fixing anything. Even if you believe you are. They need to removed from the bad environment.

You are talking about the Aftermath and I am talking preventive, so sending them to therapy is irrelevant.
 
MisterLogical said:
People do not always become Victims since they have issues, they develop issues since they were a victim. The point of allowing them to socialize with the robot is to avoid them becoming a victim. Sorry to say but if you send a victim to therapy you are not fixing their problem. If they are still in a bad environment you are not fixing anything. Even if you believe you are. They need to removed from the bad environment.

You are talking about the Aftermath and I am talking preventive, so sending them to therapy is irrelevant.
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How would allowing someone to play cards with a robot prevent them from getting bullied?
 
wolfsgirl said:
How would allowing someone to play cards with a robot prevent them from getting bullied?
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Well I want the robot to play cards with me since I cant find any good online games, and I usually only get to play when I hang out with my cousins.

I was listing other possibilities for the robot besides the fact I REALLY WANT A ROBOT THAT PLAYS POKER. Which was the original purpose of a project like this but it has other added benefits.

I also explained the socializing aspects several times, so you must not be paying attention. If someone is getting picked on for being a teacher pet and doing good to school, discussing stuff that is considered geeky with other students is only going to get them in trouble. So the robot can be used to talk to them AT THEIR LEVEL about things they enjoy discussing. So they dont have to restrain who they are, and are free to pursue their own interests without being bullied for it. Than when they graduate and get to go to college, they might find other intelligent people with the same interest to talk to, but the difference is since they talk regularly to the robot, they have some kind of idea of how to talk, and socialize with other people. They are not just kind of awkward since they never ever talk to anyone offline.

But yes the original purpose was to make a robot to play poker with me. That is what I WANT IT FOR.
 
MisterLogical said:
Well I want the robot to play cards with me since I cant find any good online games, and I usually only get to play when I hang out with my cousins.

I was listing other possibilities for the robot besides the fact I REALLY WANT A ROBOT THAT PLAYS POKER. Which was the original purpose of a project like this but it has other added benefits.

I also explained the socializing aspects several times, so you must not be paying attention. If someone is getting picked on for being a teacher pet and doing good to school, discussing stuff that is considered geeky with other students is only going to get them in trouble. So the robot can be used to talk to them AT THEIR LEVEL about things they enjoy discussing. So they dont have to restrain who they are, and are free to pursue their own interests without being bullied for it. Than when they graduate and get to go to college, they might find other intelligent people with the same interest to talk to, but the difference is since they talk regularly to the robot, they have some kind of idea of how to talk, and socialize with other people. They are not just kind of awkward since they never ever talk to anyone offline.

But yes the original purpose was to make a robot to play poker with me. That is what I WANT IT FOR.
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You just claimed that allowing people to play cards with robots would PREVENT bullying. They would still have to go to school, and be around other humans, so allowing them to play cards would not prevent them from being bullied unless they also are not required to ever leave the house.

The INTERNET can do all of the things you are claiming that you NEED a for. But if you feel the need for a card playing robot, no one is stopping you from building one. Go for it.
 
wolfsgirl said:
You just claimed that allowing people to play cards with robots would PREVENT bullying. They would still have to go to school, and be around other humans, so allowing them to play cards would not prevent them from being bullied unless they also are not required to ever leave the house.

The INTERNET can do all of the things you are claiming that you NEED a for. But if you feel the need for a card playing robot, no one is stopping you from building one. Go for it.
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No I did not, only you did.

The main purpose would be to play cards, but the software can be used for other purposes, like building robots made in order to help children socialize. You should really learn to pay attention.

So no I never said that children playing poker with a robot is going to fix social problems. Often to get funding for projects or making your name in the community, you often have to have some helpful purpose for your invention. The purpose is suppose to be to play poker, but it can also be used for other things like helping rejected children socialize. You are confusing yourself.
 
This thread has gone way off topic.
 
MisterLogical said:
No I did not, only you did.

The main purpose would be to play cards, but the software can be used for other purposes, like building robots made in order to help children socialize. You should really learn to pay attention.

So no I never said that children playing poker with a robot is going to fix social problems. Often to get funding for projects or making your name in the community, you often have to have some helpful purpose for your invention. The purpose is suppose to be to play poker, but it can also be used for other things like helping rejected children socialize. You are confusing yourself.
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You want me to pay attention? You are the one that can't seem to comprehend other peoples posts and go flying off on some rant.
 
MisterLogical said:
Exactly, that means ACTUALLY TALKING. There is a difference between talking in person vs typing.

Its kind of like Skype vs typing on a forum. Skype you CHAT, on a forum you type. So no its two totally different things.
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Call of Duty players communicate verbally but I wouldn't describe them as being socially adjusted.
 
Deuce said:
Call of Duty players communicate verbally but I wouldn't describe them as being socially adjusted.
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I pretty sure people who Skype regularly are not cursing out their Gamer rage. Being a gamer myself, I dont understand how people get so viscous and derogatory on video games. Maybe I just take it less seriously?
 
MisterLogical said:
Like if you want to play cards but you dont have friends to play with, just turn on your robot. They made a robotic butt, a robotic vagina, a robotic waitress, why cant they make a robot that can play cards for people who like cards and have no one play it with? I kind of surprised no one is working on this idea. I mean it would make so much money! In fact this could be used for something than leisure. It can be used to help people who dont get to socialize, and help them socialize. A lot of society frowns upon intelligence and in HS Intelligence and good behavior is often frowned upon so its hard to socialize. School students often have really screwed up priorities and are not realistic with what is expected in the real world. In school being a teachers pet getting you beaten up, in the work place that might just get you a promotion. What matters in HS/MS does not really matter in the real world. I think for the students who became antisocial, Ostracized and reserved thanks to bullying would benefit from this. I also think it might help for teaching behavior to mentally challenged individuals. Basically anyone who has issues trying to socialize with others for any reason and maybe also teach these people how to behave in certain situations. Can even be used to practice interviews if needed. There is endless possibilities.
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Isn't this robotic friend known as the X-Box, Playstation and the computer?
 
Henrin said:
No. Someone that becomes a recluse due to social anxiety needs to seek help, not play cards.
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they should also have to wear armbands proclaiming their reclusive nature...
 
I'd still trust these leisure robots over human beings. You just can't have any sort of real conversation with people because the only thing they'll do is personally attack you for any reason they can come up with.

But you have to learn a few things about programming ad repair.

The cautionary tale of course, is BSG and I, Robot.

Because the thing is, they might be programmed for leisure, but like the cell phone, they can be monitored from afar.
 
MisterLogical said:
This place cant play poker.



Yeah, I am sure getting your ass kicked for being a teacher pet and getting good grades totally makes it your fault you cant talk to anyone. You have no perspective at all. Its kind of sad.
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I was a teacher's pet, sort of, because I made them all laugh so much... and I got straight A's in honors classes and never once had anybody pick on me for it. I don't even remember that happening to anybody else either... those that were picked on had social and behaviour issues. Now, that is a different story altogether...
 
Ancient Herald said:
I'd still trust these leisure robots over human beings. You just can't have any sort of real conversation with people because the only thing they'll do is personally attack you for any reason they can come up with.

But you have to learn a few things about programming ad repair.

The cautionary tale of course, is BSG and I, Robot.

Because the thing is, they might be programmed for leisure, but like the cell phone, they can be monitored from afar.
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Not anymore than my vacuum cleaner can if I don't give it internet or 4G capabilities...
 
MisterLogical said:
Like if you want to play cards but you dont have friends to play with, just turn on your robot. They made a robotic butt, a robotic vagina, a robotic waitress, why cant they make a robot that can play cards for people who like cards and have no one play it with? I kind of surprised no one is working on this idea. I mean it would make so much money! In fact this could be used for something than leisure. It can be used to help people who dont get to socialize, and help them socialize. A lot of society frowns upon intelligence and in HS Intelligence and good behavior is often frowned upon so its hard to socialize. School students often have really screwed up priorities and are not realistic with what is expected in the real world. In school being a teachers pet getting you beaten up, in the work place that might just get you a promotion. What matters in HS/MS does not really matter in the real world. I think for the students who became antisocial, Ostracized and reserved thanks to bullying would benefit from this. I also think it might help for teaching behavior to mentally challenged individuals. Basically anyone who has issues trying to socialize with others for any reason and maybe also teach these people how to behave in certain situations. Can even be used to practice interviews if needed. There is endless possibilities.
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Yeah, that's an idea. Why don't we make life-sized robotic dolls! It's not like our already isolationist kids, who prefer texting and online gaming through avatars to actual face-to-face interaction with each other, don't need another artificial way to avoid real human interaction.

I know! Make sex-robots. That way males don't have to worry about females saying "Yes", and females can simply hit an OFF switch when they feel "pressured."

Again...I SOOOO wish for a zombie apocalypse. :doh
 
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