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Wednesday is a good day to go to the shooting range

Since I started reloading, I have been able to practice more often. The .22, .45, and AR are a pleasure to shoot and very relaxing. On the other side of the coin, the .40 and 7mm are not exactly fun to shoot. But since they have important functions, I practice with them anyway.

That's a lot of hard work reloading with those calibers.

I used to reload hunting rounds, and that was a lot of hard work too.

With reloading you can get sub 1/2 MOA.

Now I just settle for the store bought ammo in bulk. Lots of bulk.
 
Don't know the man.

Nice black dude in Baltimore carrying a similar knife (concealed). Pursued by cops and murdered after being placed in custody for no apparent reason. Major riots ensued. Doesn't ring a bell?
 
Nice black dude in Baltimore carrying a similar knife (concealed). Pursued by cops and murdered after being placed in custody for no apparent reason. Major riots ensued. Doesn't ring a bell?

Baltimore rioting rings a bell yes.

About a year ago I rented a car while mine was in for repairs, and the rental had On-Star on it. The triggers are on the rear view mirror.

I adjusted the rear view mirror and that triggered the On-Star.

It sent the local police looking for the car which reported itself as stolen.

I parked the car in my garage and went to bed.

In the middle of the night the alarm went off, so I got up and in my PJ's went out to the garage.

I was greeted by the cops who told me to stand there and not move while the verified the car was not stolen.

I did as they told me.

If you do as cop's tell you then they won't kill you.

These urban thugs who DON'T do what they are told by the police get no sympathy from me.

Part of the thugs' problem is that they already have police records and that throws off the police -- the police's initial take is "repeat offender."

When police tell you to do something it is best to do it because they are the police and they represent the mayor.

They also have guns and they outnumber you.

By the way, speaking of riots in Baltimore, my riot shotgun protects my home from riots. You should get one of those too. You might need it someday.

Q.E.D.
 
I'm sorry you don't consider the defense of yourself and your family to be a productive endeavor. how sad.

There are other ways to protect oneself than with firearms. Indeed, firearms should be the very last resort, not the first and certainly not the only.

Back to the OP I go when the range opens at 9:00 am on Sunday's - before the church crowd gets out, or Monday mornings when I have the day off.
 
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I practice once a month. I own a Sig P238, a small carry pistol that shoots .380s. I'm pretty comfortable with my skill level and growing more comfortable with the gun itself. At my range, you step into an individual booth amongst a line of them. When I want to think about range accidents, I need only look at the side walls to remind myself what idiots some people can be...and, obviously, how easy accidents happen. I generally shoot about 30-40 rounds.

I'm thinking of getting a revolver for home defense. Not sure yet. If I need something for home defense, really, seeng as Tom and I live alone in a single-family home, I'm really thinking a small shotgun is the honest ticket.

oh, and I go on Tuesdays.

I shot a SiG 938 last weekend for the first time - 5 shots out of 5 in a 2-inch circle at 15 years. Best I have ever shot - ever. Great little weapon.

For home defense I much prefer a shotgun over a handgun. I have a Stoeger Double Defense side-by-side "coachgun" style shotgun. The reason for that being its utter simplicity. At 3:00 am freshly awakened from a sound sleep by an unknown noise I don't want to worry about is there or isn't there a round in the chamber or did I jack the slide properly. I am not one of those people who think I need an AR with a 100-rd mag because a platoon of ISIS fighters is going to come bashing down my front door in the middle of the night. I don't think that highly of myself.
 
I shot a SiG 938 last weekend for the first time - 5 shots out of 5 in a 2-inch circle at 15 years. Best I have ever shot - ever. Great little weapon.

For home defense I much prefer a shotgun over a handgun. I have a Stoeger Double Defense side-by-side "coachgun" style shotgun. The reason for that being its utter simplicity. At 3:00 am freshly awakened from a sound sleep by an unknown noise I don't want to worry about is there or isn't there a round in the chamber or did I jack the slide properly. I am not one of those people who think I need an AR with a 100-rd mag because a platoon of ISIS fighters is going to come bashing down my front door in the middle of the night. I don't think that highly of myself.

I think of the slide issue as well. Glad to know I'm not alone. Thank you. Very helpful post.
 
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I think of the slide issue as well. Glad to know I'm not alone. Thank you. Very helpful post.

As an addendum to that, I use mini shells in the Stoeger for home defense to minimize over-penetration issues and reduce felt recoil. Buckshot can go through a surprising number of walls. The Stoeger is ridiculously fun to shoot with regular 2 3/4" 00' Buck loads at the range though.

I just think the shotgun is a much more effective weapon if you have to resort to a firearm in a home defense scenario. Stupid simple, much easier to shoot accurately than a handgun (particularly with the adrenalin going), much more "stopping power" than any handgun and if necessary it makes a great club.
 
I shot a SiG 938 last weekend for the first time - 5 shots out of 5 in a 2-inch circle at 15 years. Best I have ever shot - ever. Great little weapon.

For home defense I much prefer a shotgun over a handgun. I have a Stoeger Double Defense side-by-side "coachgun" style shotgun. The reason for that being its utter simplicity. At 3:00 am freshly awakened from a sound sleep by an unknown noise I don't want to worry about is there or isn't there a round in the chamber or did I jack the slide properly. I am not one of those people who think I need an AR with a 100-rd mag because a platoon of ISIS fighters is going to come bashing down my front door in the middle of the night. I don't think that highly of myself.

My 45ACP CZ sleeps chambered with the hammer down and inside it's holster under my pillow. All I ever need to do is pull it from the holster and then point it and pull the trigger. The first shot is double action and long. The next 10 are single action and easy.
 
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I don't own a gun so I don't go to gun ranges. I prefer to partake in athletic endeavors or something productive in my free time. my one guilty pleasure is SEC football.

I'm sorry you don't consider the defense of yourself and your family to be a productive endeavor. how sad.

I practice once a month. I own a Sig P238, a small carry pistol that shoots .380s. I'm pretty comfortable with my skill level and growing more comfortable with the gun itself. At my range, you step into an individual booth amongst a line of them. When I want to think about range accidents, I need only look at the side walls to remind myself what idiots some people can be...and, obviously, how easy accidents happen. I generally shoot about 30-40 rounds.

I'm thinking of getting a revolver for home defense. Not sure yet. If I need something for home defense, really, seeng as Tom and I live alone in a single-family home, I'm really thinking a small shotgun is the honest ticket.

oh, and I go on Tuesdays.

I do hope your accuracy in projectile placement was better than your accuracy in arithmetic computation...

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There are other ways to protect oneself than with firearms. Indeed, firearms should be the very last resort, not the first and certainly not the only.

Back to the OP I go when the range opens at 9:00 am on Sunday's - before the church crowd gets out, or Monday mornings when I have the day off.

As an addendum to that, I use mini shells in the Stoeger for home defense to minimize over-penetration issues and reduce felt recoil. Buckshot can go through a surprising number of walls. The Stoeger is ridiculously fun to shoot with regular 2 3/4" 00' Buck loads at the range though.

I just think the shotgun is a much more effective weapon if you have to resort to a firearm in a home defense scenario. Stupid simple, much easier to shoot accurately than a handgun (particularly with the adrenalin going), much more "stopping power" than any handgun and if necessary it makes a great club.

Jeeze it has been almost 3 months since I have been to the shooting range with my pistol.

That is the longest that anyone should ever wait, if not too long already.

It has been a really busy year for me at work however and I have often had to work 12/7/365 over the past year.

Today at noon I will head back to the outdoor range south of town.

Waiting this long pretty much erases anything that you improved upon before, other than hard wired basics.

I'll have to start over and take it slow again.

It's cold here 3 days away from the winter solstice. I'll have to bundle up warm and wear gloves.
 
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One young woman shooting her boyfriend's pistol for the first time swung her muzzle past my chest once while not paying attention to what she was doing one weekend day, so now I am reluctant to go to the range on weekends anymore.

Wow....what kind of... well I was about to answer my own question.



Anyway...

When: When I can

How often? Not nearly enough.

What? Rifles and handguns.

Why? For the same reason I loved to set up cardboard boxes in our large backyard as a kid and spend hours shooting an old school bow at them (not compound. Just the bow itself and a string): it amuses me to get better and better at something. I don't know.
 
Today's results. Let me see if this will post.

Yay !! It worked !!

Photo's from my digital camera won't attach -- too many bits and bytes.

However from my cell phone works just fine. These are from the cell phone.

This is from noon today.

21 rounds at 21 feet half left handed and half right handed.

Half two handed and half one handed.

Eyeglasses off.

So 5 left handed one hand only.

And 5 right handed one hand only.

Then 5 left handed with 2 hands.

Then 6 right handed with 2 hands (I had an extra bullet so I fired 21 rather than 20).

No misses.

21 feet is the closest that you should ever let anyone get to you in a confrontation before opening fire, if there is justification to fire.

From within 21 feet a knife can beat you.

Or so they say. And teach.
 

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Wow....what kind of... well I was about to answer my own question.



Anyway...

When: When I can

How often? Not nearly enough.

What? Rifles and handguns.

Why? For the same reason I loved to set up cardboard boxes in our large backyard as a kid and spend hours shooting an old school bow at them (not compound. Just the bow itself and a string): it amuses me to get better and better at something. I don't know.

I don't go back to that range again on weekends.

Today was Friday, a weekday, and activity was light. Only 4 people on the 20 station pistol side and all were guys.

One was a cop practicing with his service pistol. 20 round mags in 9mm. In California only cops may have those. Everyone else is limited to 10.

10 is plenty.
 
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