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Bear Grylls or Les Stroud

PIPEWRENCH said:
I would rather know how to survive and help others to survive as well. If the average person tried half of what Bear does there is no need for rescuers just coroners to deal with the body. I was in military mountain search and rescue and very little of anything bear does is recommended even for well train soldiers to attempt alone with no idea how long it will be for medical help to arrive. Great TV show however most everything out of Hollywood more fantasy than reality.

Follow Les and you most likely will make it out alive. But the Boy Scouts say it best. Be prepared.
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What makes you think that Bear couldn't do what Les can do? Bear is actually mobile, which makes for an interesting show as well.
 
faithful_servant said:
What grylls does makes for far better TV, but what Stroud does makes for far better survival. So if you want to be entertained, then by all means Grylls is your guy, but if you want to learn some real survival skills, then I'd suggest Stroud...
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Bear does some cool stunts, and the average person can do many of them, as seen on "Running Wild with Bear Grylls". If you're in piss poor shape, then sure, follow Stroud's advice and don't travel any more than a mile or so and hope that someone finds you. But if you're in any kind of decent shape and you have a shot at making it out, why not? I mean, don't you think Bear could just sit there like Stroud does if he wanted to?
 
JC Callender said:
Bear does some cool stunts, and the average person can do many of them, as seen on "Running Wild with Bear Grylls". If you're in piss poor shape, then sure, follow Stroud's advice and don't travel any more than a mile or so and hope that someone finds you. But if you're in any kind of decent shape and you have a shot at making it out, why not? I mean, don't you think Bear could just sit there like Stroud does if he wanted to?
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"Why not?" Because moving around a lot reduces your chances of being found. Keep yourself alive and make yourself as visible as possible is the best strategy. Surround your base camp with signs pointing to your camp. Establishing a base camp and making "day trips out a couple of miles and leaving as much trail and signs as possible to point searchers your way is the best option. The only time you should take the initiative to get out by yourself is if you're so stupid that you'd put yourself into a situation where no one would know that you're missing. Your best option is to let the professionals find you and to make their job as easy as possible.
 
faithful_servant said:
If you have a broken down vehicle, then you pull out the spare, make a safe place to light a fire and light that sucker on fire. Make yourself as visible as possible and a column of black smoke is highly visible.

Always err on the side of caution. Breaking an ankle because Bear Grylls showed you how to jump off a cliff means that you most likely are going to die. Taking a 3 mile detour around that cliff and not breaking your ankle increases your chances of survival.
Finding a safe location to hunker down is normally your best option. Take trips out from a base camp to set up signals: ripped out grass in meadows pointing to your base camp, rock/tree limb arrows, if you can kill something leave it's non-edible remains away from your camp to hopefully draw carrion birds, but again with rock/tree limb arrows pointing the way to you. Most of the time, your best option is to make yourself easy to find, not to get out yourself.
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Be prepared. That is the best advice. In my youth I got into all kinds of trouble because I failed to take the necessary precautions that save your life.


I enjoy hiking and biking.
The most important thing is to tell someone where you are going and when you will be back. I have never been lost in the NE US. Too many roads and people. However anyone can get hurt, get bit buy a snake, or become ill. I know that if I don't call the person I told by a certain time the Calvary is coming.
I always have my knife, my compass/whistle/matches, water, and my cell phone. If hurt I will stay put build a fire and wait for help.
 
PIPEWRENCH said:
I would rather know how to survive and help others to survive as well. If the average person tried half of what Bear does there is no need for rescuers just coroners to deal with the body. I was in military mountain search and rescue and very little of anything bear does is recommended even for well train soldiers to attempt alone with no idea how long it will be for medical help to arrive. Great TV show however most everything out of Hollywood more fantasy than reality.

Follow Les and you most likely will make it out alive. But the Boy Scouts say it best. Be prepared.
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Sure, just ask their Chief Scout!

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faithful_servant said:
"Why not?" Because moving around a lot reduces your chances of being found. Keep yourself alive and make yourself as visible as possible is the best strategy. Surround your base camp with signs pointing to your camp. Establishing a base camp and making "day trips out a couple of miles and leaving as much trail and signs as possible to point searchers your way is the best option. The only time you should take the initiative to get out by yourself is if you're so stupid that you'd put yourself into a situation where no one would know that you're missing. Your best option is to let the professionals find you and to make their job as easy as possible.
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If someone, including Grylls, thought that the professionals knew where they were and were on their way, then I'm sure they would all be waiting. His show doesn't cater to that as it's not always the case.
 
JC Callender said:
There's no one cooler or more bad ass than Bear Grylls and if you didn't know that already, just watch this video! Les Stroud on the other basically sits and waits for help, but believe it or not, some people think he's the better survivalist. Are you one of those punks?

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Bear stays in hotels while "surviving."
Les while being sort of a hippy, at least does his thing for real.

Bear is a show man, not much else.
 
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