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Sheriff Joseph Arpaio forced a woman to give birth while shackled
She uses the term shackled, in the story. I am not sure about this guy, and if this is true, or not, but if it is then he needs to get the freak out of office. I'll try to find the english version of the story. I tried to find a better source, but no one is not even not even New YOrk times, here is the English version |
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Re: Sheriff Joseph Arpaio forced a woman to give birth while shackled
She was in custody. People in custody can be shackled, and you don't need your hands to give birth.
Sheriff Arpaio has done a lot of good work, but every once in a while he does something like this more or less as a publicity stunt. Since I don't speak a lick of Spanish, I can't tell if this is one of those cases-- or if there was a valid reason for the suspect to be shackled. In either case, this isn't some gross abuse of power for which he should be removed from office. |
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Re: Sheriff Joseph Arpaio forced a woman to give birth while shackled
The nurses asked him repeatedly to unshackle her. She had been shackled at both the wrists and ankles
http://www.phoenixnewtimes.com/2009-...-profiled-her/ You don't really now how painful, pregnancy is. |
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Re: Sheriff Joseph Arpaio forced a woman to give birth while shackled
There is no evidence she was racially profiled. I would assume its standard procedure to have any criminal handcuffed(illegal immigration is crime) who is at a hospital receiving medical treatmentthis is probably so that the criminal does not use this as an opportunity to escape.
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Re: Sheriff Joseph Arpaio forced a woman to give birth while shackled
Nor do I care. She was in custody. The timing was a bitch, but these things happen when you get yourself arrested-- if there's evidence that she was falsely arrested, that Sheriff Arpaio or any of his subordinates deliberately broke the law in their treatment of this woman, then I'll care.
The man's a dick. I don't think anybody seriously claims that he isn't. But he does his job. |
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Re: Sheriff Joseph Arpaio forced a woman to give birth while shackled
It seems a handful of states are more enlightened. Even Texas!
" Pregnant prisoners will not have to be shackled or handcuffed during medical visits or while they are in labour under a new bill signed into law in New York state. The use of restraints on pregnant prisoners, even after they go into labour, is widely accepted throughout the United States. New York will join just five other states - Texas, Illinois, California, Vermont and New Mexico - that ban the practice. The regulations also prohibit the use of restraints on pregnant prisoners during doctors' visits. ... " NY ends pregnant prisoner handcuffing |
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Re: Sheriff Joseph Arpaio forced a woman to give birth while shackled
My buddy and shift-mate took a suspect to the hospital once, in full shackles: leg irons, belly-chain and handcuffs.
Doc insisted that the handcuffs be removed while he took his BP and pulse. My buddy complied. The perp KO'ed the doctor, knocked down the Sgt and tried to escape. My buddy grabbed him and wrestled him to the floor. The perp got my bud's gun out of his holster somehow and tried to shoot him with it. My bro remembered his training, disarmed the perp of the gun, and tossed it to take it "out of play". He and the Sgt then proceeded to, ahem, "Subdue the hell out of the perp". So thanks and all, but I don't know that I'll criticise Joe Arpaio too harshly without more info. G. |
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Re: Sheriff Joseph Arpaio forced a woman to give birth while shackled
Puh-leese. You can lay off with the "you can't understand because you're a man" thing. I've attended a number of childbirths. I've seen some women scream their heads off, I've seen others act like it was nothing.
A woman I know who has had acute gastritis compared it to childbirth. I've had acute gastritis. It hurts a lot. If I was in custody it wouldn't get me un-shackled. |
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Re: Sheriff Joseph Arpaio forced a woman to give birth while shackled
If they don't want to be shackled, then don't sneak into this country while pregnant.
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Re: Sheriff Joseph Arpaio forced a woman to give birth while shackled
Arpaio says that if he catches an illegal, he won't "send them to the feds to be deported, he'll just toss them in jail.
That's the real reason why he sucks. He's willing to waste taxpayer dollars housing these illegals just to "teach them a lesson". |
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