Female Sex Offenders having Sex with Students - Double Standard?

Sov · 11-20-09, 09:21 PM

Thank you for the correction, Korimyr!

Korimyr the Rat · 11-20-09, 09:33 PM

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I apologize. The murderer is Melissa Huckaby, not Sandra Cantu, who was the victim. (May her memory be cherished and may she rest in peace.) Which I knew, but somehow I left in the wrong name. Unfortunately, by the time I noticed this, the edit option for the post had expired.

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Fixed it for you.

Sov · 11-20-09, 10:04 PM

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Originally Posted by Korimyr the Rat

Moderator's Warning:

Fixed it for you.

And again, that is much appreciated. Thank you.

Sov · 11-20-09, 10:09 PM

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Originally Posted by 1069

Is there any other kind of rape?

"Whatever they may be in public life, whatever their relations with men, in their relations with women, all men are rapists and that's all they are. They rape us with their eyes, their laws, their codes.” ~Marilyn French

We can add ocular rape to the list. Presumably rape by laws and codes falls under statutory rape, i.e., rape with statutes.

rivrrat · 11-20-09, 11:37 PM

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Most rapes are about power and about sex. Rapists themselves tend to admit to be sexually motivated.

This is not either/or. Power can be sexual, and sexuality can be powerful. Consider the popularity of consensual BDSM and rape roleplay. These are outlets for "darker" currents of sexuality within the framework of mutual consent. The difference is that rapists and non-consensual sadists in general don't necessarily bother with consent.

There are still studies finding that significant proportions of college men, for example, admit that they might commit a rape if they knew they would not get caught. Until fairly recently, marital rape was legal throughout the Western world and in the late 19th century U.S. it was even illegal to publicly criticize it.

It makes excellent sense that all else being equal, a sexually frustrated individual will be more likely to commit rape (or sexual harassment for that matter). That ties in with why Islamist men, for example, can easily go crazy at the flash of a woman's ankle. You'd certainly be much more likely to be gang-raped in one of their neighborhoods than in a neighborhood where sexually liberal people live.

I realize that they are about power and sex, that's kind of been my point. But saying they are about SEX is incorrect. They are about something else entirely. Not just sex, but a power control that involves sex in some cases. In a few cases, it might all be about sex. And in many cases it might ALL be about power, and in many cases it's both. Power that involves sex, because that really is a woman's ultimate power over a man... her willingness to have sex with him.

Korimyr the Rat · 11-20-09, 11:40 PM

When people say-- accurately-- that rape is about power, what they tend to forget is that for the most part, power is about sex.

Toothpicvic · 11-21-09, 12:31 AM

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When people say-- accurately-- that rape is about power, what they tend to forget is that for the most part, power is about sex.

No it isn't. It's about control. Obviously you don't know much about the psychology of sex predators. It looks like you're content with making blanket proclamations even when the documented evidence doesn't back it up.

Korimyr the Rat · 11-21-09, 12:47 AM

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Obviously you don't know much about the psychology of sex predators.

Obviously, you don't know much about the psychology of apes. The purpose of social dominance is access to reproductive opportunities, and rape is most often committed by males who occupy the lower rungs of their social hierarchies-- regardless of the species of ape in question.

phattonez · 11-21-09, 01:06 AM

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Obviously, you don't know much about the psychology of apes. The purpose of social dominance is access to reproductive opportunities, and rape is most often committed by males who occupy the lower rungs of their social hierarchies-- regardless of the species of ape in question.

I think that we're a little more advanced than most apes.

Sov · 11-21-09, 01:06 AM

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In all honesty, that's probably not true. For example, we can refer to Quinsey and Chaplin's Stimulus Contro! of Rapists' and Non-sex Offenders' Sexual Arousal:

Looking at the sample - 30 men - they were primarily admitted prisoners or ex-prisoners, with most (all the rapists and about half the assumed non-rapists) diagnosed as "personality disordered," several diagnosed as "psychotic." Although I am skeptical of diagnoses in mainstream psychiatry (e.g., the "paraphilias" which are arbitrary social constructs), I can't see how this sample could be representative of admitted male rapists/non-rapists in general.

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