Female Sex Offenders having Sex with Students - Double Standard?

Agnapostate · 11-11-09, 04:21 PM

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Originally Posted by TacticalEvilDan

If you want to disagree in your own opinion, that's fine, but what you're positing flies in the face of a LOT of literature on the subject.

Just saying.

What kind of literature? Could you provide a few examples?

TacticalEvilDan · 11-11-09, 04:24 PM

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Originally Posted by Toothpicvic

No, it's reported so rarely because it happens about as often as winning the lotto.

Not true, and again, the attitude you are evincing is the reason why it is underreported.

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Originally Posted by Toothpicvic

Either way, the guy in this story never said he was physically raped so it doesn't matter whether some puzzies actually let themselves get raped by women. Geez.

Thanks for proving my point again!

Toothpicvic · 11-11-09, 04:25 PM

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Originally Posted by TacticalEvilDan

If you want to disagree in your own opinion, that's fine, but what you're positing flies in the face of a LOT of literature on the subject.

Just saying.

About that, they're have been cases where rapists agreed to castration to receive a lighter sentence, and after they were released they went and raped again (minus the balls).

TacticalEvilDan · 11-11-09, 04:25 PM

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Originally Posted by Agnapostate

What kind of literature? Could you provide a few examples?

Why don't you ask me for literature on the force of gravity or terminal velocity while you're at it?

Agnapostate · 11-11-09, 04:28 PM

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Originally Posted by TacticalEvilDan

Why don't you ask me for literature on the force of gravity or terminal velocity while you're at it?

My comment deals with a disputed issue within the category of the social sciences, while your response attempts to paint an equivalence between that and undisputed issues within the hard sciences. Where is the basis for comparison?

Toothpicvic · 11-11-09, 04:28 PM

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Originally Posted by TacticalEvilDan

Not true, and again, the attitude you are evincing is the reason why it is underreported.

Source?

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Originally Posted by TacticalEvilDan

Thanks for proving my point again!

Thanks for proving why masculinity is on the decline. God helps us all - we've entered an era of political correctness to the point that we're concerned about "male rapes by women being under-reported".

BTW guys, if you do get raped by a women somehow, then just enjoy it and man up. Don't report it. Please. Plenty of guys would love to be in your shoes.

TacticalEvilDan · 11-11-09, 04:40 PM

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Originally Posted by Agnapostate

My comment deals with a disputed issue within the category of the social sciences, while your response attempts to paint an equivalence between that and undisputed issues within the hard sciences. Where is the basis for comparison?

The basis is that there's plenty of literature on both issues, and gravity is a scientific thoery, much as the reason a rapists rapes is the subject of sociological thoery.

rivrrat · 11-11-09, 04:44 PM

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Originally Posted by Agnapostate

In all honesty, that's probably not true. For example, we can refer to Quinsey and Chaplin's Stimulus Contro! of Rapists' and Non-sex Offenders' Sexual Arousal:

If rapists were motivated primarily by desires for domination and control of women, then they would have experience greater arousal from the audio narratives of violent sexual encounters, but there was no indication of any variation between their responses to narratives of violent sexual encounters and consensual sexual encounters, indicating a sexual motive and a proclivity for rape being related to a lack of inhibitions regarding the use of violence or coercion as a complement of that.

You seem to be under the impression that a rapist doesn't have normal arousal patterns and/or doesn't engage in "normal" sexual encounters. The mere fact that the study proved that the rapists responded to the rape scenes whereas the non-rapists did not only proves that they enjoy the power over a woman in addition to enjoying 'normal' sexual encounters.

It makes absolutely perfect sense to me that a rapist would be aroused by nearly all of the sexual narratives, and in no way does that disprove that most rapes are about power and control, and not just getting laid.

Agnapostate · 11-11-09, 04:54 PM

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Originally Posted by TacticalEvilDan

The basis is that there's plenty of literature on both issues, and gravity is a scientific thoery, much as the reason a rapists rapes is the subject of sociological thoery.

Gravity isn't a "theory" in the sense that it's not far progressed beyond a tentative hypothesis; you seem to be using the term "theory" the same way that creationists who attack evolution do. But you did assert that rape occurs primarily because of a desire to "dominate" others, which is the popular consensus, but one that I don't believe to be as supported by empirical research on the matter as my own premise is. For a basic overview, consider reading Thornhill and Palmer's Why Men Rape.

Agnapostate · 11-11-09, 04:56 PM

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Originally Posted by rivrrat

You seem to be under the impression that a rapist doesn't have normal arousal patterns and/or doesn't engage in "normal" sexual encounters. The mere fact that the study proved that the rapists responded to the rape scenes whereas the non-rapists did not only proves that they enjoy the power over a woman in addition to enjoying 'normal' sexual encounters.

That's what I said; thanks for your agreement.

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Originally Posted by rivrrat

It makes absolutely perfect sense to me that a rapist would be aroused by nearly all of the sexual narratives, and in no way does that disprove that most rapes are about power and control, and not just getting laid.

There was equivalent arousal from the violent and the non-violent narratives, which indicates that there's no specific focus on "power and control" on their part. There's simply a lack of inhibitions about using violence and coercion against others as a complement of normal sexual interests.

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