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Old 12-08-08, 01:36 PM   #11
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Re: Live in San Fran? Don't light your fireplace...

I LOVE having a nice warm fire going on. That I cannot because of this sort of BS is what's wrong. Jfuh, your arrogance is showing again. MANY people use fire to stay warm, welcome to reality.
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Re: Live in San Fran? Don't light your fireplace...

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Re: Live in San Fran? Don't light your fireplace...

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I LOVE having a nice warm fire going on. That I cannot because of this sort of BS is what's wrong. Jfuh, your arrogance is showing again. MANY people use fire to stay warm, welcome to reality.
Most times unless one is living in log cabin a fire is not required to keep warm. I bet most places in SF have some type of heating system other than fireplaces.
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Most times unless one is living in log cabin a fire is not required to keep warm. I bet most places in SF have some type of heating system other than fireplaces.
I dunno about SF, but in WV a ****load of people heat their homes with woodburning stoves, furnaces and fireplaces.

Anywho, that ban is horse****. ****ing goddamn nanny state bull****. Expect only more of this with our newly elected heavy-handed government president elect.

People spend more money for homes with a fireplace for a ****ing reason. And it's not so nanny-state whackos can come and tell them they can't use it. They tell "sensitive people" to stay inside during the summer on "bad" days, they can do the same in the ****ing winter. Or hell. Move.
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Re: Live in San Fran? Don't light your fireplace...

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Yes yes, go after the private home owner for heating his home with a wood fire on a “spare the air” day. Because ya know, we can’t go after Burger King and the local Steakhouse chain, we can’t go after all the businesses (who also have lawyers) that have massive particulate releases daily. The little guys in their houses, they are destroying the environment by heating their home with a wood fire!

Jesus and it has gotten just this stupid, but hey all concerned can slap each other on the back and feel smug as they know they are saving the planet. One lit fireplace at a time. Chuckle.
Those chains burn natural gas
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Re: Live in San Fran? Don't light your fireplace...

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I LOVE having a nice warm fire going on.
you use it to heat your home? Or just for pleasure?

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That I cannot because of this sort of BS is what's wrong.
If for pleasure I have my doubts that you're going to be really upset and distraught on that single day.

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Jfuh, your arrogance is showing again. MANY people use fire to stay warm, welcome to reality.
Where? Not in SF or anywhere in the Bay area to heat their homes I can assure you that.
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I dunno about SF, but in WV a ****load of people heat their homes with woodburning stoves, furnaces and fireplaces.

Anywho, that ban is horse****. ****ing goddamn nanny state bull****. Expect only more of this with our newly elected heavy-handed government president elect.
Does that also apply to Idaho?
Colarado?, Nevada? How about Utah?
Why is it that no one gets up and screams foul play when those states have had such bans for quite some time, but when San Fransisco does it?

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People spend more money for homes with a fireplace for a ****ing reason. And it's not so nanny-state whackos can come and tell them they can't use it. They tell "sensitive people" to stay inside during the summer on "bad" days, they can do the same in the ****ing winter. Or hell. Move.
Who are these nanny state wackos?
Power plant emissions are limited it makes sense that homes that burn wood are also subject to such regulation in particular within areas where there are atmospheric inversions.
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Does that also apply to Idaho?
Colarado?, Nevada? How about Utah?
Why is it that no one gets up and screams foul play when those states have had such bans for quite some time, but when San Fransisco does it?
If someone had made a thread about them, I would complain about them. Quite frankly, my opposition to it goes nationwide and isn't just limited to one state in the country.

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People who put such laws into place.
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If someone had made a thread about them, I would complain about them. Quite frankly, my opposition to it goes nationwide and isn't just limited to one state in the country.
Sorry, that was not directed at you personally or specifically, just using your post as a general basis of argument.
Hypothetically, if your neighbor starts making ammonia for some asinine reason and wreaks up your house because it; should they be allowed to continue the manufacturing of or should they be regulated against?
The same applies here, particulates in regions where there is atmospheric inversion lead to serious pollution problems which is why these "one day save the air" bans. In particular there are individuals particularily sensitive to such particulates, ie infants and elderly - should they have to deal with it so that one can enjoy the luxury of a wood fire that day?

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People who put such laws into place.
I would venture that too many laws would fall into this category including late night noise level ordinances/legislations.
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Re: Live in San Fran? Don't light your fireplace...

Certain communities nowdays have these wood burning bans,especially in cities. Its basically the result of what cities are. Overpopulated pockets of humanity that are so smushed together, you cannot do anything without it having an affect on somebody who lives, drives, or sits right up your asshole. So people work to get these things banned, because they don't like the smell of smoke, or are so completely overwhelmed by a desire to protect their own health, the health of the "underpriviliged", or the environment. And as people continue to get offended by(or try to protect) more and more things, they slowly eat away at freedoms, without realizing they are a snake that is devouring its own tail. They mistakenly believe they are devouring only the rights of others, but in actuality, they are only on the way to devouring their own rights. As it works its way up the tail, it will inevitably consume them.
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