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ICE Wants to Be an Intelligence Agency Under Trump

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Officials at Immigration and Customs Enforcement are actively exploring joining the U.S. Intelligence Community, The Daily Beast has learned.

The effort is helmed by a small cohort of career Immigration and Customs Enforcement (ICE) officials, and has been underway since the Obama administration, according to an ICE official familiar with the matter.

Internal advocates for joining the America’s spy agencies—known as the Intelligence Community or the IC—focus on the potential benefits to the agency’s work on counterproliferation, money laundering, counterterror, and cybercrime. The official added that joining the IC could also be useful for the agency’s immigration enforcement work––in particular, their efforts to find and arrest undocumented immigrants with criminal arrest warrants (known in ICE as fugitive aliens).

But civil liberties advocates and government watchdog groups—as well as some current and former U.S. officials—are concerned at the prospect of the nation’s immigration enforcers joining the ranks of America’s spies.

“The idea that ICE could potentially get access to warrantless surveillance is frankly terrifying,” Jake Laperruque, senior counsel at the Project on Government Oversight, told The Daily Beast.
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https://www.thedailybeast.com/ice-wants-to-be-an-intelligence-agency-under-trump

This seems like a bad idea.
 
The analyst in me is all for ICE having some capacity to gather intelligence or information in the efforts to capture and gather on human/drug traffickers, and career criminals with multiple deportations. All while gathering and compiling a database that allows them to understand trends, and perhaps even prevent and apprehend the actual "rapists and killers." But the more mushy, human side of me can understand and empathize with people over the fear of further growing and expanding what would eventually be a domestic spying program.
 
Six of one, half dozen of the other... but it probably is a bad idea for ICE to function like what is being proposed. ACLU may be mostly right on their concerns.
 
We need more police powers, not! What is the ratio of law enforcement to citizens since 9/11/01?
 
I could see it doing well and I could see it being a disaster. I almost believe that it would have to be merged with the DEA to be effective in terms of intelligence though since ICE overlaps into DEA's front-line.
 
That's a big flat out no, from me.



Yikes.


I agree with the ACLU on something. This will be our little secret.
 
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