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Judge urges new citizens to leave USA if can't accept Trump...

MickeyW said:
It wasn't politically correct, but he can say what he wants. 1st Amendment. He was just underlining the fact that these protesters are idiots. I share that opinion....they are idiots!
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Hey Mickey... it's time to see if you can win on DP's favorite game, Hypocrisy Check!.

So tell me, if you believe what you posted above, you must also believe that what the start of the play Hamilton did was ALSO OK and was in accordance with the 1st Amendment... even though it was not politically correct? Let's see if you are consistent or if you are a right wing hack-hypocrite.
 
Bucky said:
This is more than simply disagreeing with our beloved President-elect. The level of hate from the liberals is beyond disagreeing, it is pure hatred and evil.

These people have a disdain for American values. This isn't about race. This is about America. Trump ran on American principles and for some lunatics, this is not acceptable.
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This is actually about what the judge said in the OP, Bucky.

Your post is a deflection from the fact that these people are now American CITIZENS and are protected by the Constitution to say whatever the hell they want to about President elect Trump just as you are offered that same protection to say whatever the hell you want about the protesters. The judge was out of line.
 
Hari Seldon said:
The judge is a ****ing disgrace and should be told its not up to him to tell a UNITED STATES CITIZEN what to think. He should go to Russia, will be right at home. What a scumbag! Trumpy may be the president elect but there is sure no requirement to like him. Pretty much unamerican to support this type of nonsense.
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right! That should be left to cast and crew of a stupid play in New York

DUH!
 
SheWolf said:
I don't think the judge should say that. These people just became Americans. They are legal. They did everything right, and that should be respected. Being an American does not require you to agree with the president all the time, and that's one of the best things about America.
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Exactly. It's fine to say "Trump is going to be your president." but to leave if you don't like it? **** that asshole. He should be pulled from the bench.
 
CaptainCourtesy said:
Poor Bucky. Your argument fails so you need to create a strawman. The OP discusses the VERBAL protest/disagreement of Trump being President and how one judge believes that should be reason for the person doing that to leave the US. I understand that your right wing argument is so weak that you MUST change the parameters, but that kind of dishonesty doesn't fly with me. So, do you believe that disagreeing with who the President is would be reason to suggest that the person should leave the US... and how does that not violate the 1st Amendment?
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Why become a citizen if they have such a hatred for the President? The good judge just merely said they should leave, not that they have to leave.
 
Technically the judge has the right to say that but it is in very poor taste. Also consider the environment where a judge is near godlike. To say it is freedom of speech is to be very shortsighted. A common person does not have the same right to speak freely back to a judge.
 
Bucky said:
Why become a citizen if they have such a hatred for the President? The good judge just merely said they should leave, not that they have to leave.
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Why say it at all? They became citizens AFTER THE ELECTION.

They know who the new President will be and BECAME CITIZENS ANYWAY.
 
CaptainCourtesy said:
Since that had nothing to do with the OP or what I was discussing, I must conclude that like many conservatives on this thread, you are diverting/changing the goalposts because you have no response to the actual argument. Not surprising.
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It is not surprising that you think a judge should not be patriotic and expect new citizens to respect their new president. It is amusing how liberals and progressives can demonize any attempt at unity.
 
coldjoint said:
It is not surprising that you think a judge should not be patriotic and expect new citizens to respect their new president. It is amusing how liberals and progressives can demonize any attempt at unity.
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Did he also make them kiss the flag? Trump is not President. I hate the prick with evey fiber of my being.

I don't always demonize unity, but when I do, you'll know it.
 
ARealConservative said:
right! That should be left to cast and crew of a stupid play in New York

DUH!
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Another wing nut deflection post. I'm not surprised. And calling the play stupid. Oooooooo.

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d0gbreath said:
Did he also make them kiss the flag? Trump is not President. I hate the prick with evey fiber of my being.

I don't always demonize unity, but when I do, you'll know it.
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Thanks to the media everyone else will too.
 
Hari Seldon said:
Another wing nut deflection post. I'm not surprised. And calling the play stupid. Oooooooo.

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ooh the wing nut personal insult. bet that goes over real well at whatever school you are currently enrolled in.

If you don't see the similarity between the actions of the Hamilton cast and this judge that's on you.
 
d0gbreath said:
I've absolutely nothing to hide.
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I never said you did. I hate Hillary if it makes you feel better. Trump was the only realistic alternative.
 
CaptainCourtesy said:
It is always good to see you have no respect for the Constitution, Mickey. Have you ever read the 1st Amendment and the right to protest? Apparently not.
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what are you blabbering on about now?

the judge practiced his first amendment rights. nothing more.

what he did was not materially different then what the cast of Hamilton did.
 
SheWolf said:
Is planning on leaving the country since he isn't happy with the gubberment now?
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If he is not, I have a funny feeling he will be in about two years. ;)
 
MickeyW said:
The judge enjoys the same Freedom of speech as anyone else. I've heard a lot worse from many judges....some disparaging gun owners.



It wasn't politically correct, but he can say what he wants. 1st Amendment. He was just underlining the fact that these protesters are idiots. I share that opinion....they are idiots!



Sure, many times. My respect for the Constitution has diddly squat to do with these comments. Focus Capt.
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OBEY!

It was a stupid, authoritarian comment.

Your lack of respect for the right to dissent, to hold unpopular views, and the freedom of speech and thought is disturbing.

You, like the judge, are the one being the PC Bolshevik here. You are showing no respect for the constitution, Americanism, or anything.

Like what?

Unbelievable.

Bob N said:
That's OK. Primomo has been suspended.

Judge to retire after telling new U.S. citizens to leave the country if they don’t like Trump
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Good, piece of **** has no business in our judiciary.
 
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ARealConservative said:
ooh the wing nut personal insult. bet that goes over real well at whatever school you are currently enrolled in.

If you don't see the similarity between the actions of the Hamilton cast and this judge that's on you.
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You still can't address the subject of the op and your justification is the other side did something similar. Pretty pathetic for the side of "personal responsibility". They also aren't that close since the actors made their speech AFTER the play which seems to allude quite a few cons. The Judge was performing his duties as a Judge. If this idiot judge made his dopey comments after the ceremony it would be a much better comparison. I hear he was suspended, good.
 
Bucky said:
Why become a citizen if they have such a hatred for the President? The good judge just merely said they should leave, not that they have to leave.
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Citizens can say anything they want about the President... and even have a lot of hatred for him. Doesn't change the fact that they can also choose to remain in the US for lots of reasons. Who the President is really isn't that important.

But... do you agree that anyone who hated Obama should have left? Though your argument would still be ignorant, it would at least be consistent.
 
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The judge was out of place and deserves to be censured, or possibly removed from the bench.
 
coldjoint said:
It is not surprising that you think a judge should not be patriotic and expect new citizens to respect their new president. It is amusing how liberals and progressives can demonize any attempt at unity.
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It's not surprising that you do not respect the 1st Amendment. It's also not surprising that you believe someone is patriotic if they also don't respect the 1st Amendment. I'm sure, of course that you were ALWAYS respectful in regards to Obama. But, ultimately, it's amusing how much conservatives like you hate the Constitution when partisanship comes into play.
 
ARealConservative said:
what are you blabbering on about now?

the judge practiced his first amendment rights. nothing more.

what he did was not materially different then what the cast of Hamilton did.
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I always enjoy how your posts make no sense and don't address the topic, ARC. You are always consistent in that matter. Here... let me demonstrate just how worthless and irrelevant what you said is:

1) I never said that the judge didn't practice his 1st Amendment rights.
2) I never said that what he did was any different than what the cast of Hamilton did. I also condemned what they did.

In other words, not only did you not bother to address anything I said, but you both created strawman arguments (because you had nothing else) and have now been shown that those arguments are nonsense. Always good talking to you, ARC.
 
coldjoint said:
It is not surprising that you think a judge should not be patriotic and expect new citizens to respect their new president. It is amusing how liberals and progressives can demonize any attempt at unity.
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'Suport Trump or GTFO' is an attempt at unity???
 
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