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Hillary’s Talk of ‘Implicit Bias’ Should Scare Every American

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I saw this article's title in the list that RealClearPolitics.com puts up twice a day in their news feed for it's viewers to click on and read. The title was click bait, and it obviously worked on me, however, the article itself made me think, and it, IMHO, goes directly to what our country is struggling with when it comes to the social conventions surrounding race - should we expect people to take responsibility for their own actions, their own choices, their own lives, or are we as a society oppressing whole segments of our society due to "implicit bias" and/or "systemic racism" and the actions of people that end up getting themselves shot by the police, or attacked in a drug buy gone bad, or their kids failing in school, or their neighborhood being crime ridden, or their inability to find or keep a job is the fault, the blame, and the responsibility of everyone else and they are not to be held responsible (or shot) when they have a gun in their hands and do not follow police instructions to drop the gun (as just one example)? I'm just so tired of being told continually that the problems of others is due to the simple fact that I exist in some heretofore unseen to me fantasy world of privileged. Every single person is a product of their choices in life - not some malevolent system of oppression that we are all unwittingly a part, and the only ones that can see it are the progressive SJW's, progressive politicians gaming the SJW vote, and of course, those people that want to blame their life's problems on something other then themselves and their own choices in life.

Are there problems in or society with racism, bigotry, and hate? Sure, of course, we see it every day. Is it at the level of influence over other people's lives that it creates all the ill's that they blame it for? Hell no.

Anyway, here's the article:

Hillary’s Talk of ‘Implicit Bias’ Should Scare Every American | National Review

by David French September 28, 2016 2:43 PM @DavidAFrench

This is a road we don’t want to travel.

You’re guilty and you don’t know it. Sure, you think you’re a decent person who treats people fairly, judging them on the content of their character and not the color of the skin. But let’s face it: You’re deluded. Especially if you happen to be white, you’re biased and you don’t even know it. You’re unaware of your own privilege, and of the extent to which your beliefs, speech, and even mannerisms oppress people of color. It’s time to confess. It’s time to be re-educated. It’s time to rid yourself of your false consciousness.

This is the message of the modern campus radical, of the diversity trainer, and, increasingly, of the Democratic nominee for president, Hillary Clinton.

Like many of the most dangerous progressive ideas, “implicit bias” or “unconscious racism” seems reasonable enough at first glance: Aren’t we all shaped by our environment and upbringing to make snap judgments about people? Aren’t those judgments often wrong? Couldn’t we all use exposure to different cultures and ideas to help us get past preconceived notions and casual bigotries? What could be wrong with that?

[...]
 
I saw this article's title in the list that RealClearPolitics.com puts up twice a day in their news feed for it's viewers to click on and read. The title was click bait, and it obviously worked on me, however, the article itself made me think, and it, IMHO, goes directly to what our country is struggling with when it comes to the social conventions surrounding race - should we expect people to take responsibility for their own actions, their own choices, their own lives, or are we as a society oppressing whole segments of our society due to "implicit bias" and/or "systemic racism" and the actions of people that end up getting themselves shot by the police, or attacked in a drug buy gone bad, or their kids failing in school, or their neighborhood being crime ridden, or their inability to find or keep a job is the fault, the blame, and the responsibility of everyone else and they are not to be held responsible (or shot) when they have a gun in their hands and do not follow police instructions to drop the gun (as just one example)? I'm just so tired of being told continually that the problems of others is due to the simple fact that I exist in some heretofore unseen to me fantasy world of privileged. Every single person is a product of their choices in life - not some malevolent system of oppression that we are all unwittingly a part, and the only ones that can see it are the progressive SJW's, progressive politicians gaming the SJW vote, and of course, those people that want to blame their life's problems on something other then themselves and their own choices in life.

Are there problems in or society with racism, bigotry, and hate? Sure, of course, we see it every day. Is it at the level of influence over other people's lives that it creates all the ill's that they blame it for? Hell no.

Anyway, here's the article:

I completely agree with your conclusion. The American people are being played. The evidence is clear for those willing to make an objective effort to find it.

The PC agenda is part of this effort. As are "safe spaces" and trigger words like the massively insulting "deplorable" comments from Hillary Clinton.

Concern is met with accusation designed to destroy anyone voicing it.

This is the Progressive Global Social/Economic Justice game plan. Even the EPA has joined in this manipulation and obfuscation via it's Environmental Justice initiative.

Hillary Clinton understands what is going on while it's likely most of her supporters have no clue.

It is most dangerous, and it is cause for significant concern.
 
I saw this article's title in the list that RealClearPolitics.com puts up twice a day in their news feed for it's viewers to click on and read. The title was click bait, and it obviously worked on me, however, the article itself made me think, and it, IMHO, goes directly to what our country is struggling with when it comes to the social conventions surrounding race - should we expect people to take responsibility for their own actions, their own choices, their own lives, or are we as a society oppressing whole segments of our society due to "implicit bias" and/or "systemic racism" and the actions of people that end up getting themselves shot by the police, or attacked in a drug buy gone bad, or their kids failing in school, or their neighborhood being crime ridden, or their inability to find or keep a job is the fault, the blame, and the responsibility of everyone else and they are not to be held responsible (or shot) when they have a gun in their hands and do not follow police instructions to drop the gun (as just one example)? I'm just so tired of being told continually that the problems of others is due to the simple fact that I exist in some heretofore unseen to me fantasy world of privileged. Every single person is a product of their choices in life - not some malevolent system of oppression that we are all unwittingly a part, and the only ones that can see it are the progressive SJW's, progressive politicians gaming the SJW vote, and of course, those people that want to blame their life's problems on something other then themselves and their own choices in life.

Are there problems in or society with racism, bigotry, and hate? Sure, of course, we see it every day. Is it at the level of influence over other people's lives that it creates all the ill's that they blame it for? Hell no.

Anyway, here's the article:

It is certain that we all have sets if implicit bias unless I am missing something. Why, even science works under paradigms. What seems dangerous is to allow anyone to determine which bias should be branded and punished and which is good.
 
I saw this article's title in the list that RealClearPolitics.com puts up twice a day in their news feed for it's viewers to click on and read. The title was click bait, and it obviously worked on me, however, the article itself made me think, and it, IMHO, goes directly to what our country is struggling with when it comes to the social conventions surrounding race - should we expect people to take responsibility for their own actions, their own choices, their own lives, or are we as a society oppressing whole segments of our society due to "implicit bias" and/or "systemic racism" and the actions of people that end up getting themselves shot by the police, or attacked in a drug buy gone bad, or their kids failing in school, or their neighborhood being crime ridden, or their inability to find or keep a job is the fault, the blame, and the responsibility of everyone else and they are not to be held responsible (or shot) when they have a gun in their hands and do not follow police instructions to drop the gun (as just one example)? I'm just so tired of being told continually that the problems of others is due to the simple fact that I exist in some heretofore unseen to me fantasy world of privileged. Every single person is a product of their choices in life - not some malevolent system of oppression that we are all unwittingly a part, and the only ones that can see it are the progressive SJW's, progressive politicians gaming the SJW vote, and of course, those people that want to blame their life's problems on something other then themselves and their own choices in life.

Are there problems in or society with racism, bigotry, and hate? Sure, of course, we see it every day. Is it at the level of influence over other people's lives that it creates all the ill's that they blame it for? Hell no.

Anyway, here's the article:

I'd have read this comment fully, but unfortunately I was triggered by it.

I must retreat to my Space of Safeness.
 
I completely agree with your conclusion. The American people are being played. The evidence is clear for those willing to make an objective effort to find it.

The PC agenda is part of this effort. As are "safe spaces" and trigger words like the massively insulting "deplorable" comments from Hillary Clinton.

Concern is met with accusation designed to destroy anyone voicing it.

This is the Progressive Global Social/Economic Justice game plan. Even the EPA has joined in this manipulation and obfuscation via it's Environmental Justice initiative.

Hillary Clinton understands what is going on while it's likely most of her supporters have no clue.

It is most dangerous, and it is cause for significant concern.

You are absolutely right about pc restrictions on communications. The manipulation is certainly anti democratic and probably very harmful to society. But it is ubiquitous and we accept it in so many places we hardly notice. Just type **** and see the spelling.
 
I saw this article's title in the list that RealClearPolitics.com puts up twice a day in their news feed for it's viewers to click on and read. The title was click bait, and it obviously worked on me, however, the article itself made me think, and it, IMHO, goes directly to what our country is struggling with when it comes to the social conventions surrounding race - should we expect people to take responsibility for their own actions, their own choices, their own lives, or are we as a society oppressing whole segments of our society due to "implicit bias" and/or "systemic racism" and the actions of people that end up getting themselves shot by the police, or attacked in a drug buy gone bad, or their kids failing in school, or their neighborhood being crime ridden, or their inability to find or keep a job is the fault, the blame, and the responsibility of everyone else and they are not to be held responsible (or shot) when they have a gun in their hands and do not follow police instructions to drop the gun (as just one example)? I'm just so tired of being told continually that the problems of others is due to the simple fact that I exist in some heretofore unseen to me fantasy world of privileged. Every single person is a product of their choices in life - not some malevolent system of oppression that we are all unwittingly a part, and the only ones that can see it are the progressive SJW's, progressive politicians gaming the SJW vote, and of course, those people that want to blame their life's problems on something other then themselves and their own choices in life.

Are there problems in or society with racism, bigotry, and hate? Sure, of course, we see it every day. Is it at the level of influence over other people's lives that it creates all the ill's that they blame it for? Hell no.

Anyway, here's the article:
I think I agree with your conclusions. There is some of both. It's not a one-way street.
 
I saw this article's title in the list that RealClearPolitics.com puts up twice a day in their news feed for it's viewers to click on and read. The title was click bait, and it obviously worked on me, however, the article itself made me think, and it, IMHO, goes directly to what our country is struggling with when it comes to the social conventions surrounding race - should we expect people to take responsibility for their own actions, their own choices, their own lives, or are we as a society oppressing whole segments of our society due to "implicit bias" and/or "systemic racism" and the actions of people that end up getting themselves shot by the police, or attacked in a drug buy gone bad, or their kids failing in school, or their neighborhood being crime ridden, or their inability to find or keep a job is the fault, the blame, and the responsibility of everyone else and they are not to be held responsible (or shot) when they have a gun in their hands and do not follow police instructions to drop the gun (as just one example)? I'm just so tired of being told continually that the problems of others is due to the simple fact that I exist in some heretofore unseen to me fantasy world of privileged. Every single person is a product of their choices in life - not some malevolent system of oppression that we are all unwittingly a part, and the only ones that can see it are the progressive SJW's, progressive politicians gaming the SJW vote, and of course, those people that want to blame their life's problems on something other then themselves and their own choices in life.

Are there problems in or society with racism, bigotry, and hate? Sure, of course, we see it every day. Is it at the level of influence over other people's lives that it creates all the ill's that they blame it for? Hell no.

Anyway, here's the article:

It is a process that some people want in place so they can claim automatic victimization without actually being a victim of an actual incident. Just their existence makes them a victim. I exist therefore I am a victim and anyone that bothers me in the least is an abuser.
 
It is certain that we all have sets if implicit bias unless I am missing something. Why, even science works under paradigms. What seems dangerous is to allow anyone to determine which bias should be branded and punished and which is good.

No one is punishing people for their implicit biases. Implicit biases are not within our control by definition. We cannot be responsible for them in that way. But this doesn't mean we shouldn't notice how these biases influence ourselves and the world or consider whether these effects should be addressed in some way.
 
No one is punishing people for their implicit biases. Implicit biases are not within our control by definition. We cannot be responsible for them in that way. But this doesn't mean we shouldn't notice how these biases influence ourselves and the world or consider whether these effects should be addressed in some way.

Where it becomes interesting, is where one group with an implicit bias meets one of another bias. Then both are confronted with a different take and should rethink, which neither usually does.
 
...should we expect people to take responsibility for their own actions, their own choices, their own lives, or are we as a society oppressing whole segments of our society due to "implicit bias" and/or "systemic racism"...
These things do not seem to be mutually exclusive.

The facts are that human can be rational, but being rational is not our goto strategy for dealing with the world.
We generalize. This works reasonably well and conserves a great deal of effort.

But this relieves no one of responsibility for their actions.
If anything, this knowledge that human do not always act "rationally" increases our responsibilities.

[ I put rationally in quotes because generalizing instead of rationally considering every situation throughout the day is rational—it often works well enough and conserves our mental energy for other tasks. ]

Our environment does have an impact on us and our behaviors.
But that does not remove our responsibility for our own actions.

You may be over thinking this.
 
Where it becomes interesting, is where one group with an implicit bias meets one of another bias. Then both are confronted with a different take and should rethink, which neither usually does.

Sure. For example, the OP.
 
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