"Burn That **** down!"

braindrain · Aug 25, 2016

Absentglare said:
You must be confused, i'm not suggesting that eating is not a serious activity, i'm suggesting that hosting a party is not an example of taking their movement seriously.

Well seeing as tons of very serious organizations and movements host BBQs all the time how exactly does BLM hosting one make them appear not serious.

Absentglare · Aug 25, 2016

Re: "Burn That **** down!"

Caine said:
The problem is that there is no such thing as an "Official" BLM event. Because there is no ACTUAL leadership in BLM, despite what they claim on their website.

They are so quick to jump up and denounce the Cook Out with police event as "not in line with their principles" when it is erroneously attributed as a BLM event by media. But when the media claim that BLM protesters are blocking down interstates, BLM is, officially, silent on the matter.

So, that in itself tells me that, in fact, BLM supports the people playing in traffic.

And, therefore, does not believe that black lives indeed matter.

I don't claim to have an exhaustive understanding of everything that BLM leadership has done or said.

However, i cannot find a reputable news outlet citing BLM blocking highways. The closest i found was "Black.Seed" trying to block the bay bridge.

'Black Lives Matter' protesters block S.F. Bay Bridge

Absentglare · Aug 25, 2016

braindrain said:
But as been pointed out to you several times that is not all they said. I know you want to pretend they didn't but they also said it went against their principles. How about you tell us what principle that a BBQ violated.

How the **** should i know ?? I'm not a BLM leader, i'm just not letting myself develop an unjustified prejudice against BLM from the media.

braindrain said:
Well seeing as tons of very serious organizations and movements host BBQs all the time how exactly does BLM hosting one make them appear not serious.

Name one.

Caine · Aug 25, 2016

Re: "Burn That **** down!"

Absentglare said:
I don't claim to have an exhaustive understanding of everything that BLM leadership has done or said.

However, i cannot find a reputable news outlet citing BLM blocking highways. The closest i found was "Black.Seed" trying to block the bay bridge.

'Black Lives Matter' protesters block S.F. Bay Bridge

It says, "Black Lives Matter" protestors black S.F. Bay Bridge...... right there in the title....

braindrain · Aug 25, 2016

Absentglare said:
How the **** should i know ?? I'm not a BLM leader, i'm just not letting myself develop an unjustified prejudice against BLM from the media.

Name one.

Well I would have thought you would have some idea as you have been defending their tweet nonstop in this thread. Most people don't defend something the don't have s clue about. Why would you defend something that you don't have a clue about.

Pretty much every military unit. Tons of Fortune 500 countries and most political campaigns have similar events. I guess none of those are serious.

Absentglare · Aug 25, 2016

Re: "Burn That **** down!"

Caine said:
It says, "Black Lives Matter" protestors black S.F. Bay Bridge...... right there in the title....

And that would be a LIE. If you read the article, you can easily see that they are NOT BLM.

Absentglare · Aug 25, 2016

braindrain said:
Well I would have thought you would have some idea as you have been defending their tweet nonstop in this thread. Most people don't defend something the don't have s clue about. Why would you defend something that you don't have a clue about.

Pretty much every military unit. Tons of Fortune 500 countries and most political campaigns have similar events. I guess none of those are serious.

I didn't say i don't have a clue, that doesn't mean that i'm comfortable speculating on the motives for every one of their behaviors.

Now you're shifting the goalposts of "serious" again. Are you talking about the host ORGANIZATION being serious or the actual EVENT being serious ? My company just had a little bbq- it wasn't a serious event: people came and went as they pleased, some had food, some had alcohol, some went paddleboarding, i took my dog to the adjacent dog beach to sniff other dogs asses-- obviously this was not a serious event.

braindrain · Aug 25, 2016

Absentglare said:
I didn't say i don't have a clue, that doesn't mean that i'm comfortable speculating on the motives for every one of their behaviors.

Now you're shifting the goalposts of "serious" again. Are you talking about the host ORGANIZATION being serious or the actual EVENT being serious ? My company just had a little bbq- it wasn't a serious event: people came and went as they pleased, some had food, some had alcohol, some went paddleboarding, i took my dog to the adjacent dog beach to sniff other dogs asses-- obviously this was not a serious event.

When most people say how the **** should I know it is indicating they don't have a clue. And you have been speculating on what their motives have been this whole time.

You are the one who brought up the whole not being taken seriously bit. Not me. And as has already been pointed out many serious organizations host non-serious events.

Furthermore this whole not taken serious thing is simply you speculating as to why they tweeted what they did. Something you just said you are not comfortable doing.

So you defended BLMs tweet that said this BBQ went against their principles but say you don't know what principle that violated. Do you make a habit of defending things you don't know.

Absentglare · Aug 25, 2016

braindrain said:
When most people say how the **** should I know it is indicating they don't have a clue. And you have been speculating on what their motives have been this whole time.

I do have clues about BLM.

I do not have intimate details about the personal motives of every BLM leader.

braindrain said:
You are the one who brought up the whole not being taken seriously bit. Not me. And as has already been pointed out many serious organizations host non-serious events.

I sure did; and a bbq is not a serious event.

braindrain said:
Furthermore this whole not taken serious thing is simply you speculating as to why they tweeted what they did. Something you just said you are not comfortable doing.

Yes, i came up with a possible explanation. Care to see what i wrote again ???-

Absentglare said:
They take their message seriously and i can see why they would explain to the media that it wasn't a BLM event.

Absentglare said:
You must be confused, i'm not suggesting that eating is not a serious activity, i'm suggesting that hosting a party is not an example of taking their movement seriously.

I clearly explained that i was saying "i can see why" not "i know this is why they said this."

braindrain said:
So you defended BLMs tweet that said this BBQ went against their principles but say you don't know what principle that violated. Do you make a habit of defending things you don't know.

I'm simply defending them from your unjustifiable inference.

braindrain · Aug 26, 2016

Absentglare said:
I do have clues about BLM.

I do not have intimate details about the personal motives of every BLM leaders

I don't remember asking you if you hand a clue about BLM the question was what principle did a BBQ violate. You know the part of their tweet you keep trying to pretend didn't happen. And who claimed you had such knowledge. Oh that's right no one did. That's just you making things up again. What did happen was you tried to defend BLM saying a BBQ designed to improve relationships between police and the community went against their principles which you admit you don't have any idea what that principle was. [/QUOTE]

I sure did; and a bbq is not a serious event.
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And as I already pointed out to you plenty of extremely serious organizations put on BBQ so that just seems rather silly.

Absentglare said:
Yes, i came up with a possible explanation. Care to see what i wrote again.

So one moment you say you don't want to speculate but yet you have no issues speculating a defense for them. See the issue here.

Absentglare said:
I clearly explained that i was saying "i can see why" not "i know this is why they said this."

You also claimed that they are a serious organization as if somehow that means serious organizations don't put on BBQs which as I demonstrated to you is completely false.

Absentglare said:
I'm simply defending them from your unjustifiable inference.

What inference would that be. They are the one who said the BBQ went against their principles not me. And seeing as how you admit you don't have any ****ing idea what that principle that was violated was it would seems that the only one making unjustifiable claims here is you.

Caine · Aug 26, 2016

Absentglare said:
I sure did; and a bbq is not a serious event.

Yes, we know. You've said as such.

However, is shutting down the interstate and calling for pigs in a blanket to fry serious events?