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Police in Kansas awoke naked woman, asked her to locate gun then shot her to death

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TheDemSocialist said:
Wouldnt be the first.

"Weddington added that the video footage shows cops approaching the bed for the first glimpse of any gun. “Never once do you see that pistol until cops pull it from her knee after lifting the blanket,” he said.
The gunshots still echoing off the walls, Weddington says one of the officers allegedly orders everybody to “shut off your cameras.”
He said cops spirited Musto away and then allegedly did something peculiar.
“When Theresa and I saw they had taken her from the bedroom and laid her by the front door after she was shot we were confused,” he said. “They moved her in there and they covered her with a red blanket and then the ambulance showed up.”
The removal of Choate’s bullet-riddled corpse seems especially unorthodox given that her death and all of the factors that caused it becomes key evidence. Disturbing anything in that room (especially the remains before photographing it, examining it externally, and documenting the results) can be detrimental to preserving a crime scene’s integrity.
“Fragile evidence (which can be easily contaminated, lost or altered) must also be collected and/or preserved to maintain chain of custody and to assist in determination of cause, manner and circumstances of death,” according to The National Institute of Justice’s Guide to Death Scene Investigation.
Weddington goes even further to blame the prosecutors for trying to bury the video evidence and silence his family with a settlement worth “not more than $200,000.”
“There was nothing right about any of it,” Weddington said. “They tried to pay us off and sign a paper to get us to not let the video become public.
“So they were trying to get us to not sue them and not to make this public.”
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Right and that is one side, funny how you can completely dismiss one side and belive everything the other has to say when you have no evidence that corroborates either side.
 
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Crovax said:
So the "corrupt" police barge into a woman's house kill her in cold blood with bodycams on and then after a review clear the cops but show the bodycams to the family giving them all the evidence they need to win a multimillion dollar lawsuit?

Sure thing buddy....
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Yeah, not like it took the family almost two years to have the video released to them.
 
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Somerville said:
Yeah, not like it took the family almost two years to have the video released to them.
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Considering the shooting happened less than one year ago, I think you should look at the facts again.
 
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Crovax said:
Considering the shooting happened less than one year ago, I think you should look at the facts again.
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You are correct - my mistake. Although "less than one year ago" is pushing the definition as it is only nine days short of being a full year.
 
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Somerville said:
You are correct - my mistake. Although "less than one year ago" is pushing the definition as it is only nine days short of being a full year.
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The shooting happened on March 26th 2015, today is March 4th 2016.

What exactly is your definition of 9 days?
 
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TheDemSocialist said:
Weddington goes even further to blame the prosecutors for trying to bury the video evidence and silence his family with a settlement worth “not more than $200,000.” “There was nothing right about any of it,” Weddington said. “They tried to pay us off and sign a paper to get us to not let the video become public.
“So they were trying to get us to not sue them and not to make this public.”
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this is interesting
 
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Crovax said:
Right and that is one side, funny how you can completely dismiss one side and belive everything the other has to say when you have no evidence that corroborates either side.
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If that encompasses your view of justice, then that severely disturbing
 
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TheDemSocialist said:
If that encompasses your view of justice, then that severely disturbing
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Its disturbing that I wait to see evidence before I make a judgement?
 
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Crovax said:
Its disturbing that I wait to see evidence before I make a judgement?
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You already made up your mind, and proved that you had made up your mind several posts ago.
 
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There's no doubt that waking up a naked woman and shooting her will piss a woman off every time. The other thing that can make a woman angry is waking her up and asking her if she wants to get naked.
 
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Tettsuo said:
http://www.nydailynews.com/news/nat...ke-naked-woman-shot-lawsuit-article-1.2551918

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Interesting.....

So... knowing what I know about police procedures... am I do believe that the daughter was in the room the whole time with her mother and law enforcement during this encounter..... and her brother too apparently?

No.

I have a real hard time trusting the word of family members of people killed by law enforcement, lets just say they don't have the greatest track record when these cases get nationwide attention and some investigative digging occurs. Not to mention, they make statements of fact about a situation when they weren't even present at the time of the incident, and therefore have not a damned clue what occurred on scene.

So I'll have to wait and see when the real facts of the incident come out.
 
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Tettsuo said:
No statement that the woman pointed the gun at the cops? So why shoot at all?
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Why would any person filing a lawsuit give facts that support the defendants of said lawsuit? The goal is to receive damages (aka money), so there is absolutely no way they would state any facts that they knew (if they know any facts at all) that would leave room for doubt.
 
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reinoe said:
This is just another example of the police engaging in thrill kills.
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Or.....

Could just be another example of the news media jumping on the Police Violence Controversy Bandwagon to increase advertising revenues.
 
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TheDemSocialist said:
"according to Olathe police."
Self investigations by police departments never have had a historical precedence of bull****, right?
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Statements by family members seeking damages (aka money) in lawsuits have never had a historical precedence of bull****, right?
 
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Caine said:
Statements by family members seeking damages (aka money) in lawsuits have never had a historical precedence of bull****, right?
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Tampering evidence, fighting to keep a bodycamera private....
 
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Tettsuo said:
Show me where I jumped to a conclusion. Or am I jumping to a conclusion simply by posting an article?
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LOL

Spare me. You jumped to the conclusion that I was ready to defend the cops "right out of the gate". I did no such thing.

I simply stated your OP attempted to present one side of the story, without much of anything from the other side. That's not defending cops, that's just wanting more information in order to draw an informed conclusion.

Clearly, you have a thing against cops, and your laughable denial that is true is proof. Don't be a fraud. It's remarkably transparent.
 
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Tettsuo said:
Here's what confuses me.

She was in her home, in her bed... naked. She's not a threat at the moment. Why not just have a conversation with the boyfriend and make sure everything was okeydokie? Why not restrain her first, then have one of the cops retrieve the firearm?

I look forward to the cops version of events.


No statement that the woman pointed the gun at the cops? So why shoot at all?
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In the US cops are trained to shoot first and ask questions later. In this case, they did the reverse, asking questions first and then shooting. Weird.
 
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Thoreau72 said:
In the US cops are trained to shoot first and ask questions later. In this case, they did the reverse, asking questions first and then shooting. Weird.
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You clearly have no freaking clue what police in the U.S. are trained to do.

So shut up. You are embarrassing yourself.
 
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Thoreau72 said:
In the US cops are trained to shoot first and ask questions later. In this case, they did the reverse, asking questions first and then shooting. Weird.
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They're also trained on how to lie on their police reports, stage crime scenes, and where to find the best donut shops.
 
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Tettsuo said:
I haven't mentioned anything as of yet. I gave no hint on my position... yet you're ready to defend the cops right out the gate.
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His comments were no different than yours. He simply asked for the other side of the story. And you shriek bias.

Sriusly...........
 
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TheDemSocialist said:
I mean the title of the article seems to be factual. Justice has not been served.
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How do you know? What do you have beyond one sides perspective? Justice may not have been served but to claim justice HAS NOT been served clearly demonstrates bias.

Heres the thing. All the articles are slanted. Every single one of them cites comments from people that werent even in the home. The only one in the home was the boyfriend and he was in the other room. All of them describe the 'victim' in the most Pollyanna-esque way possible. “Always a good time. She’s always laughing, smiling, hugging, making you feel better,” said Jamie. “She’s a wonderful, wonderful woman.” Im sure she was. And they loved her. No doubt. And yet, prior to the incident the boyfriend called the police stating she was drunk, suicidal, and that shots had been fired inside the home.

Perhaps there is validity. Perhaps there is more to the story.
 
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VanceMack said:
His comments were no different than yours. He simply asked for the other side of the story. And you shriek bias.

Sriusly...........
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Why ask me for the other side? Go find it and post it. All I did was post a story. In fact. the article does give the cops side. Go read it.
 
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ocean515 said:
LOL

Spare me. You jumped to the conclusion that I was ready to defend the cops "right out of the gate". I did no such thing.

I simply stated your OP attempted to present one side of the story, without much of anything from the other side. That's not defending cops, that's just wanting more information in order to draw an informed conclusion.

Clearly, you have a thing against cops, and your laughable denial that is true is proof. Don't be a fraud. It's remarkably transparent.
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It's not my story. It's a news article. Go find the other side if you're so interested.
 
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Tettsuo said:
It's not my story. It's a news article. Go find the other side if you're so interested.
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Perhaps you should take your own advice. Obviously a big ask.
 
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