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San Bernardino Killers' Friend Talked 'Sleeper Cells'...

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'So many people just waiting'...

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RIVERSIDE, Calif. — The regulars did not take it seriously when Enrique Marquez mused about terrorism at Morgan’s Tavern, a dank dive bar where he hauled ice, cleaned bathrooms and checked IDs at the door. After a few drinks, he would just start talking – about his money woes, trying to lose weight, wanting to join the Navy. News reports about terror were just fodder for more bar talk.
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“He would say stuff like: ‘There’s so much going on. There’s so many sleeper cells, so many people just waiting. When it happens, it’s going to be big. Watch,’” said Nick Rodriguez, a frequent patron who had known Mr. Marquez on and off for the past two years. “We took it as a joke. When you look at the kid and talk to him, no one would take him seriously about that.”
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But nine days after a husband and wife gunned down 14 people at a county health department meeting, Mr. Marquez, 24, a childhood friend of the husband, Syed Rizwan Farook, has become a crucial if unlikely figure in the investigation of the attack — which was just the kind he would discuss when terrorism news reports flashed onto the tavern’s television.
http://www.nytimes.com/2015/12/12/us/enrique-marquez-san-bernardino-attacks.html?_r=0
 
Damn....I've been saying this since 9-1-1.
 
I wish people would stop it with the crap fear mongering. Here is a report from the FBI:

https://www.fbi.gov/news/testimony/the-terrorist-threat-confronting-the-united-states

An excerpt:
The threat of terrorism to the United States remains despite proactive law enforcement efforts and significant legislative counterterrorism initiatives. The overall level of terrorist-related acts in the United States declined in the early 1990s, when compared to figures for the 1970s and 1980s, but has increased steadily during the past five years. There were two terrorist acts recorded in the United States in 1995, three in 1996, four in 1997, five in 1995, 12 in 1999 and 8 in 2000 (FIGURES COMBINE TERRORIST INCIDENTS AND SUSPECTED TERRORIST INCIDENTS). While terrorist designations for the year 2001 are currently being finalized, one incident, the attack of September 11, produced higher casualty figures than all previous terrorist incidents in the United States combined. Relatively high numbers of terrorist plots prevented by law enforcement in recent years further underscore the continuing terrorist threat.
 
I wish people would stop it with the crap fear mongering. Here is a report from the FBI:

https://www.fbi.gov/news/testimony/the-terrorist-threat-confronting-the-united-states

An excerpt:

From your excerpt:

"Relatively high numbers of terrorist plots prevented by law enforcement in recent years further underscore the continuing terrorist threat."

Tell me you really believe that terrorism is a lower priority now, than in years past.

Do you think the FBI wants a panic?

This is the same crap I've been railing about for decades..."Just call a cop, they will protect you!" The reality is....no they can't, just ask those at Ft. Hood, Boston, SB, the Texas parade. The only thing that stopped those guys in Texas was one sharp eyed and brave, local cop. The FBI is overrated, always has been. Albeit, they have improved dramatically in the last 14 years.

That's absolute BS. Police protection is an oxymoron. Sure, the FBI has stopped a lot of plots since 9-1-1....but they can't stop them all...and the bad guys haven't even got warmed up yet. I'm looking for a co-ordinated 8-10 prong attack across the US. DHS/FBI will be going bonkers and so will local law enforcement.
A citizens First Line of Defense...is themselves!

And that has ALWAYS been the case!
 
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I wish people would stop it with the crap fear mongering. Here is a report from the FBI:

https://www.fbi.gov/news/testimony/the-terrorist-threat-confronting-the-united-states

An excerpt:

Fear mongering is how we roll here in the US. Fear Goggles are required gear for those who watch the mainstream media. NYT today had headlines telling us that most americans are scared of muslims.

We like to be scared, and stay scared. It is the government and media's job to keep us that way.
 
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