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I was sexually molested and then held without trial in Snohomish County jail, WA

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My name is Justin Neff. What I need to talk to you about is something that impacts all of us. I have just experienced a serious of gross abuses at the hands of individuals claiming to be enforcers of the law who have shown no respect for the law or the constitutional rights or boundaries of myself or other inmates whatsoever. I believe them to be engaged in a wide array of criminal activities, violating those who are in their care and using their presumed authority to cover their crimes. I myself was sexually molested in my sleep during the first time I was under their supervision in Snohomish County jail. I know this because I had nightmares of being anally penetrated and then woke up several times with dried semen in my anus. I did not confront the "officers" in question at the time because I feared that to do so would place my life in jeopardy. I have also spoken with other individuals who have said the same; that they were being molested and were afraid to be vocal about what was taking place. Any attempt to confront these “peace officers” directly about this issue since my initial release from Snohomish County has been met with side stepping and obfuscation. During my stay there, I had also attempted to tell my lawyer at the time that I believed I was being sexually molested in solitary confinement while in the facility, but she ignored me completely and acted as if I hadn't spoken at all. I also forgot to mention in the report I gave to the Mountlake Terrace police that one officer in particular had joked about never being able to remember what the PREA video says, and I could feel his sadistic energy at the time. It was clear to me at that point that they wanted me to know what they were doing and to feel helpless to do anything about it. Here is the report which I filed with the Mountlake Terrace police when I was initially released from their custody:

I just got out of the Snohomish county jail where I was spiritually and physically abused. I have some food with me, I believe they may have tampered with. Some of it is from before I mentioned I believed they were tampering with my food. At times I woke up with a filthy anus that didn't seem explainable by the conditions I was living in alone. Not that the conditions weren't terrible. At one point I was denied soap and toothpaste for over a week. When I peed my bed they refused to change the blankets for over two weeks. At times I thought I tasted chemicals in the water. When one of the guards threatened to beat the **** out of me, they refused to give me his badge number. At another point they threatened to beat another inmate's head in because he was yelling. At times I woke up with a needle mark in my arm without explanation. During my stay there I lost 45 pounds without explanation and felt continuously sick. When I asked to go to the hospital, all they did was draw my blood almost a dozen times a day. They continued to ask me for blood samples even after determining that there was nothing abnormal about my blood, and showed an unusual interest in my blood, both at the hospital and at the jail. At many times I felt I was being physically and/or spiritually leeched. During my entire stay I had the constant feeling that I was in the presence of cold blooded predators with no concern whatsoever for my safety or well-being. I feel that much of what happened has been traumatically repressed and that an attempt to uncover those memories could lead to further details.
 
The hell???
 
When the Mountlake Terrace police refused to investigate the matter, I attempted to contact the FBI about what had taken place, but they refused to investigate as well. I tried to ask both of them whether or not it was advisable to maintain contact with my Department of Corrections officer since I was concerned that he was likely aware of and complicit with the crimes that were taking place in the facility, but they just told me that they were unable to give me advice on the matter. I told them that I would wait to engage in contact with him until it could be determined whether and investigation was going to take place, and continued to try to contact legal authorities about what had happened. After six days of trying to file a report in Washington with no success, I went up to Portland seeking the support of my family members in the hope that they might be able to help me to report these crimes. I spent four days on the phone from morning until past midnight each day leaving messages with members of legal agencies and sexual abuse agencies in the hope that someone would take a personal interest in the case rather than simply trying to refer me to another program. I contacted the governor's office, the Attorney General, the Department of human rights (even though I am aware they do not handle these kinds of cases, I was hoping they could refer me to someone who would), the ACLU, PREA, RAIN, and over a dozen different sexual abuse agencies in both Washington and Oregon. After having no luck with this for four days, I was finally able to set up a meeting with the Beaverton police and expressed to them my concerns about maintaining contact with the DOC given the circumstances. He responded to this by asking me if it was possible that I had a warrant out for my arrest, and I responded by telling him that it was possible but that I didn't think it was significant given the circumstances. He checked and discovered that there was a warrant for absconding and told me that he had no discretion in the matter and would have to arrest me. The SA employee helping me to file the report objected to my being arrested in the process of attempting to report a series of sexual assaults, but he assured me that there would be an investigation into the matter and that I would have the opportunity to be STD tested, and I cooperated with the arrest under this understanding. I had purchased an all-day bus pass that day with the intention of seeking a hospital or clinic that would allow me to be STD tested on an emergency basis but was unable to do so due to the arrest. The officer asked me if I would be needing any of my property back, which included a travel bag, a sleeping bag, and my copy of the bible. I told him that I would be needing all of my possessions back but unsurprisingly did not receive them when I was released from custody four months later. He said that he would not be able to keep any of my food because it was perishable, and I explained that the peanut butter that I had taken with me out of Snohomish was evidence and therefore should not be thrown out, and he replied absurdly that he would take photos of it before discarding it.
 
During the intake at Washington County I was asked by medical examiners if I had ever been sexually molested and they informed me as well that I would have the opportunity to be STD tested and that there would be an investigation into the matter when I explained about what had taken place in Snohomish County. On two other occasions I met with deputies who asked me questions about what had taken place and also assured me that there would be an investigation into the matter. I also spoke with medical staff again and was assured once again that I would have the opportunity to be STD tested. Neither of those things ever took place, and I waited in Washington County to see if I would be returned to Snohomish because I had refused to waive extradition in the hope that a Governor's warrant would not be signed due to the fact that I had left a report with the Governor's office prior to being arrested. This hope was in vain, however, and on the day that I was told by the court that a Governor's warrant had been issued, I asked the judge why no attempt had been made to investigate the crimes I had been attempting to report. He showed utter contempt for justice and my personal safety by saying callously, "This conversation is over", refusing to acknowledge the legitimacy of my concern. I initially intended to allow this transport to take place so that I could confront those who had violated me face to face, but on the day it was scheduled I had a sexual nightmare while in the holding room waiting to be transported and determined that under no circumstances could I allow myself to be returned to where I had been repeatedly sexually violated. When an officer came to collect me for transport, I informed him that he was violating the laws of both God and mankind by refusing to acknowledge my right to safety in returning me into the hands of people he was well aware had sexually violated me previously. He disregarded this and forced me back into my cell with a detached expression on his face when I refused to be handcuffed. While I was waiting in the cell, I buzzed the front desk repeatedly until someone finally responded and made this statement. "Because you have refused to investigate the sexual assaults that I was attempting to report when I was arrested, what you are doing now amounts to an act of kidnapping." To this I received no reply. When another guard came to collect me later, he claimed to have no idea about what was taking place which I found to be dubious given the circumstances. I told him that he had no right to return me to the hands of sexual predators, and he responded by saying to me, "These things take time.", as though the amount of time it takes to begin an investigation justifies placing me in danger again in the meantime. I explained to him that this had nothing to do with any kind of impatience on my part and that my concern was for the considerable likelihood that I would be molested again upon being returned to the facility, but he disregarded this and simply restated, "These things take time, like reports are filed every day, not just by you." I told him that he had no right to put my safety at risk and I was therefore under no legal obligation to cooperate with this act of kidnapping and he responded by telling me that he would be back to remove me by force. He returned later with another officer and I explained to them that if they attempted to handcuff me again I would consider it to be an act of kidnapping and would me legally justified in defending myself. He asked if I would step out, and I said that I would. I proceeded to walk toward the intake area and said, "We can go this way, where you can release me from this facility because you have no right to hold me here." They attempted to subdue me, and I responded by striking the officer who grabbed my shoulder, drawing his blood which got on my hand and on the floor. I was taken to solitary confinement by force and charged with assaulting a public safety officer.
 
While in solitary confinement, my constitutional rights were repeatedly violated, and I was denied medical attention as I grew increasingly sick during my stay. After about three weeks I reached a point where I was unable to keep down solid food, and after not eating for over three days and throwing up when I attempted to consume food again, I told the guard on duty that I needed to be taken to the hospital, but he just said, "I'm not taking you to the hospital for that, man." As though I were making an unreasonable request. After not eating for ten days, I again insisted that I needed to be taken to the hospital, but the guard on duty at that time said that they would not be able to do so unless I attempted to eat something. A guard watched me repeatedly heaving from trying to eat half of a baby carrot, but did nothing about it. They continued to refuse to take me to the hospital for over a month. During this time I was spending the vast majority of my time unconscious and they did nothing to address the situation other than to repeatedly take my weight. When I finally went to the clinic after being unable to keep down solid food for over a month, again, the only thing they were interested in was drawing my blood. Eventually I developed explosive diarrhea and got feces on the wall on floor, largely because I was too weak and shaky to aim properly. I asked the guards if they would help me to clean it but they refused multiple times for over three weeks and only after I had started to get better did they explain to me that I had been placed on a behavioral sanction that precluded me from receiving cleaning supplies. I explained that this was a violation of my constitutional rights as refusing sanitation for behavioral concerns constituted cruel and unusual punishment. One of the guards I spoke to acknowledged that my constitutional rights had been violated but showed no concern for the matter and of course nothing was done to address the issue.

I took the assault charge to trial to trial and was acquitted, despite the fact that I testified under oath that I had in fact struck the officer and drawn his blood and there was a video of what had taken place, they tried to make it out to be that I was acquitted due to lack of evidence. I asserted both during my testimony and to the judge afterward that my actions were protected by the United States constitution because to transport me into the hands of people they knew to be sexual predators was illegal, and this was disregarded.
After the trial I told the officers that I would rather die than to allow myself to be transported back to a facility into which I had been sexually molested. I also asked them how they thought my family, who had spent four days listening to descriptions of how I had been raped in this facility would feel about what they were doing, and they just acted as though they could not possibly know the answer to that.
I also asked if they honestly expected me to believe that they were legitimate peace officers considering their behavior, and one "officer" responded, "you can believe whatever you want to believe". One of the "officers" tried to claim that if I could not remember the names of the deputies who had assured me that there would be an investigation that he could do nothing to help me with the matter. At this point the clear falsehood of their words reached a point of absurdity and it was clear to me by their demeanor that they were aware of this fact. This assessment is supported by the fact that without warning I was forcibly transported by a S.W.A.T. team to Monroe prison, where I was again assured that I would have the opportunity to speak with an investigator about what had taken place in Snohomish county jail, and of course was not at all surprised when this still did not take place.
 
I was given a mockery of a hearing about the absconding charge in which I was not allowed to present my family as witnesses, with the excuse that I did not have their phone numbers memorized. I told them that their numbers were in my cell phone which was locked up with my property, but they acted as though this did not make them available enough to justify attempting to contact them. I asserted again that my actions were protected under the U.S. constitution because I believed my safety to be in danger at the time, and explained that I would have been able to maintain contact with my DOC officer if another legal authority would have been willing to assist and support me in doing so, but the man conducting the hearing disregarded this and declared me guilty of absconding "based on my own testimony". I was sentenced to 20 days and was told that I was being released when I was in fact being transported back to Snohomish County. There was a felony charge against me for missing a court date while I was fighting the false charge that I had been acquitted of, but nothing had been done to make me aware of this. When I arrived the transporting officers explained to me that they hadn't disclosed this to me because there was "some anxiety" about my cooperation, and assured me that the staff had been made aware of the statements I had made regarding what had taken place the last time I was there. Despite this, when I attempted to once again report what had taken place the officers I spoke to acted as though they had never heard anything about this previously, which I sincerely doubt. Two other inmates I spoke to also expressed to me that they had been sexually molested in this facility, and the guards ignored me when I attempted to confront them about this. One of the inmates pointed to Smith badge# 0618 as the one who had raped him. Smith refused to give me his first name when I asked and said that he was the only "Smith" who worked at this facility. I was given no opportunity to give a plea to the missing court date charge and was found guilty without a hearing and without ever once meeting or speaking to my lawyer. When speaking to the judge, I agreed to comply with his terms of probation for the present moment, but asserted that if at any point in doing so I felt that my safety was in danger that would take precedence over any other legal obligations I may have been assigned. I do not believe that this man has any legitimate authority to place me under probation and is cooperating with the sexual crimes as well as other crimes that are taking place in this facility as well. I am now looking for a way to address this issue for the sake of the safety, freedom, and well-being of my fellow American citizens.

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I was given a mockery of a hearing about the absconding charge in which I was not allowed to present my family as witnesses, with the excuse that I did not have their phone numbers memorized. I told them that their numbers were in my cell phone which was locked up with my property, but they acted as though this did not make them available enough to justify attempting to contact them. I asserted again that my actions were protected under the U.S. constitution because I believed my safety to be in danger at the time, and explained that I would have been able to maintain contact with my DOC officer if another legal authority would have been willing to assist and support me in doing so, but the man conducting the hearing disregarded this and declared me guilty of absconding "based on my own testimony". I was sentenced to 20 days and was told that I was being released when I was in fact being transported back to Snohomish County. There was a felony charge against me for missing a court date while I was fighting the false charge that I had been acquitted of, but nothing had been done to make me aware of this. When I arrived the transporting officers explained to me that they hadn't disclosed this to me because there was "some anxiety" about my cooperation, and assured me that the staff had been made aware of the statements I had made regarding what had taken place the last time I was there. Despite this, when I attempted to once again report what had taken place the officers I spoke to acted as though they had never heard anything about this previously, which I sincerely doubt. Two other inmates I spoke to also expressed to me that they had been sexually molested in this facility, and the guards ignored me when I attempted to confront them about this. One of the inmates pointed to Smith badge# 0618 as the one who had raped him. Smith refused to give me his first name when I asked and said that he was the only "Smith" who worked at this facility. I was given no opportunity to give a plea to the missing court date charge and was found guilty without a hearing and without ever once meeting or speaking to my lawyer. When speaking to the judge, I agreed to comply with his terms of probation for the present moment, but asserted that if at any point in doing so I felt that my safety was in danger that would take precedence over any other legal obligations I may have been assigned. I do not believe that this man has any legitimate authority to place me under probation and is cooperating with the sexual crimes as well as other crimes that are taking place in this facility as well. I am now looking for a way to address this issue for the sake of the safety, freedom, and well-being of my fellow American citizens.

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Assuming you're not actually a spam bot, posting your phone number my not be the best idea.
 
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And you decided that Debate Politics is the place to get justice?
 
On another note, the OP must be a hoot at parties. "Hello, my name is Justin. Let me tell you about my filthy anus and some explosive diarrhea I had."
 
Anyone who is the victim of state violence needs to find an advocacy group for support and guidance.
 
I was given a mockery of a hearing about the absconding charge in which I was not allowed to present my family as witnesses, with the excuse that I did not have their phone numbers memorized. I told them that their numbers were in my cell phone which was locked up with my property, but they acted as though this did not make them available enough to justify attempting to contact them. I asserted again that my actions were protected under the U.S. constitution because I believed my safety to be in danger at the time, and explained that I would have been able to maintain contact with my DOC officer if another legal authority would have been willing to assist and support me in doing so, but the man conducting the hearing disregarded this and declared me guilty of absconding "based on my own testimony". I was sentenced to 20 days and was told that I was being released when I was in fact being transported back to Snohomish County. There was a felony charge against me for missing a court date while I was fighting the false charge that I had been acquitted of, but nothing had been done to make me aware of this. When I arrived the transporting officers explained to me that they hadn't disclosed this to me because there was "some anxiety" about my cooperation, and assured me that the staff had been made aware of the statements I had made regarding what had taken place the last time I was there. Despite this, when I attempted to once again report what had taken place the officers I spoke to acted as though they had never heard anything about this previously, which I sincerely doubt. Two other inmates I spoke to also expressed to me that they had been sexually molested in this facility, and the guards ignored me when I attempted to confront them about this. One of the inmates pointed to Smith badge# 0618 as the one who had raped him. Smith refused to give me his first name when I asked and said that he was the only "Smith" who worked at this facility. I was given no opportunity to give a plea to the missing court date charge and was found guilty without a hearing and without ever once meeting or speaking to my lawyer. When speaking to the judge, I agreed to comply with his terms of probation for the present moment, but asserted that if at any point in doing so I felt that my safety was in danger that would take precedence over any other legal obligations I may have been assigned. I do not believe that this man has any legitimate authority to place me under probation and is cooperating with the sexual crimes as well as other crimes that are taking place in this facility as well. I am now looking for a way to address this issue for the sake of the safety, freedom, and well-being of my fellow American citizens.
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What you've done here is publish this story. First publishing. Means it'll be harder to sell on the market.
 
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My name is Justin Neff. What I need to talk to you about is something that impacts all of us. I have just experienced a serious of gross abuses at the hands of individuals claiming to be enforcers of the law who have shown no respect for the law or the constitutional rights or boundaries of myself or other inmates whatsoever. I believe them to be engaged in a wide array of criminal activities, violating those who are in their care and using their presumed authority to cover their crimes. I myself was sexually molested in my sleep during the first time I was under their supervision in Snohomish County jail. I know this because I had nightmares of being anally penetrated and then woke up several times with dried semen in my anus. I did not confront the "officers" in question at the time because I feared that to do so would place my life in jeopardy. I have also spoken with other individuals who have said the same; that they were being molested and were afraid to be vocal about what was taking place. Any attempt to confront these “peace officers” directly about this issue since my initial release from Snohomish County has been met with side stepping and obfuscation. During my stay there, I had also attempted to tell my lawyer at the time that I believed I was being sexually molested in solitary confinement while in the facility, but she ignored me completely and acted as if I hadn't spoken at all. I also forgot to mention in the report I gave to the Mountlake Terrace police that one officer in particular had joked about never being able to remember what the PREA video says, and I could feel his sadistic energy at the time. It was clear to me at that point that they wanted me to know what they were doing and to feel helpless to do anything about it. Here is the report which I filed with the Mountlake Terrace police when I was initially released from their custody:

I just got out of the Snohomish county jail where I was spiritually and physically abused.
I have some food with me, I believe they may have tampered with. Some of it is from before I mentioned I believed they were tampering with my food. At times I woke up with a filthy anus that didn't seem explainable by the conditions I was living in alone. Not that the conditions weren't terrible. At one point I was denied soap and toothpaste for over a week. When I peed my bed they refused to change the blankets for over two weeks. At times I thought I tasted chemicals in the water. When one of the guards threatened to beat the **** out of me, they refused to give me his badge number. At another point they threatened to beat another inmate's head in because he was yelling. At times I woke up with a needle mark in my arm without explanation. During my stay there I lost 45 pounds without explanation and felt continuously sick. When I asked to go to the hospital, all they did was draw my blood almost a dozen times a day. They continued to ask me for blood samples even after determining that there was nothing abnormal about my blood, and showed an unusual interest in my blood, both at the hospital and at the jail. At many times I felt I was being physically and/or spiritually leeched. During my entire stay I had the constant feeling that I was in the presence of cold blooded predators with no concern whatsoever for my safety or well-being. I feel that much of what happened has been traumatically repressed and that an attempt to uncover those memories could lead to further details.




Mighty sad.

My advice to you is to stay out of jail. Lots of bad things happen in jails.
 
Would you vote for Donald Trump before or after this incident?
 
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I don't know if your story is true or not but it's very sad and not a joking matter. If true, you sound incredibly troubled by this and if it's false, that's perhaps even more troubling emotionally and psychologically.

Either way, I wish you well and hope that you seek and find assistance and can eventually find peace at some point and move on with your life.
 
On another note, the OP must be a hoot at parties. "Hello, my name is Justin. Let me tell you about my filthy anus and some explosive diarrhea I had."

There is always a down side to the Hershey Bar Road whether the hetero lane or the homo lane or the lane that goes both ways.

:D
 
I don't know if your story is true or not but it's very sad and not a joking matter. If true, you sound incredibly troubled by this and if it's false, that's perhaps even more troubling emotionally and psychologically.

Either way, I wish you well and hope that you seek and find assistance and can eventually find peace at some point and move on with your life.

Yes it is.

(... a joking matter.)
 
Mighty sad.

My advice to you is to stay out of jail. Lots of bad things happen in jails.

Absolutely right and good advice.

And if anyone does end up in jail stay on your end and kill the first person who tries to make you their bytch.
 
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