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Cop throws guy to the ground, in the street

VanceMack said:
If thats not a Halloween or costume party, someone needs to talk to the girl in the Daisy Dukes about the office dress code policy.
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It's the security office at Pittsburgh's stadium. The girl is a fan who was wearing the unicorn mask and dancing in the stadium aisles; she got detained because she couldn't hear the cops telling her to sit down. Apparently everyone was good-humored about the whole thing.
 
DifferentDrummr said:
It's the security office at Pittsburgh's stadium. The girl is a fan who was wearing the unicorn mask and dancing in the stadium aisles; she got detained because she couldn't hear the cops telling her to sit down. Apparently everyone was good-humored about the whole thing.
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Nice. And no one got shot or thrown to the ground. Guess we will put that one in the 'win' category.
 
VanceMack said:
The 'throwing to the ground' never happened.
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Yeah, it pretty much did.

The guy was an idiot. However, being an idiot, or even being rude to a cop, is not illegal. Further, the police have citizens at a distinct disadvantage, because they can carry guns, arrest citizens, detain them, even assault them without further investigation. Yelling at the guy, not a big deal. 5 cops surrounding the guy and cursing him out, not acceptable. Shoving him, and then doing nothing when he does a faceplant, not acceptable.


The cops didnt change their footing, adjust their stance, brace themselves for a push.
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The guy went flying. They didn't even blink twice at him landing face-first on the ground.

It's certainly not the worst thing ever, but it is emblematic of the NYPD's attitude towards the public.

Or, as I said earlier: Imagine if I was talking to a cop, and a moment later the cop was face-down on the ground, without any definitive proof that I shoved him. There is not a doubt in my mind that moments later, the officer would be using force to subdue and arrest me. What would you say in those circumstances?
 
Visbek said:
Yeah, it pretty much did.

The guy was an idiot. However, being an idiot, or even being rude to a cop, is not illegal. Further, the police have citizens at a distinct disadvantage, because they can carry guns, arrest citizens, detain them, even assault them without further investigation. Yelling at the guy, not a big deal. 5 cops surrounding the guy and cursing him out, not acceptable. Shoving him, and then doing nothing when he does a faceplant, not acceptable.



The guy went flying. They didn't even blink twice at him landing face-first on the ground.

It's certainly not the worst thing ever, but it is emblematic of the NYPD's attitude towards the public.

Or, as I said earlier: Imagine if I was talking to a cop, and a moment later the cop was face-down on the ground, without any definitive proof that I shoved him. There is not a doubt in my mind that moments later, the officer would be using force to subdue and arrest me. What would you say in those circumstances?
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watch the video. There is NO POSSIBLE WAY you could define that as a shove. Dood may have gone flying for cause. He may have gone flying because he was scared and wanted to run away. There was no 'shove'. Its sad, pathetic, and not a little embarrassing that people define this as an 'assault' or in the words of the OP the cop throws the guy to ground. And this is why there is just so little concern about actual incidents of brutality. You spend all your capital on Mike Brown and the dancing douchebag, you tend to lose all your credibility.
 
VanceMack said:
watch the video.
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I did, several times.


There is NO POSSIBLE WAY you could define that as a shove.
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Yes, there is. Heck, even the NY Post, a conservative and Murdoch-owned paper, acknowledged that Bok was shoved.


He may have gone flying because he was scared and wanted to run away.
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Thank you for displaying the incredible power of human beings to rationalize.


Its sad, pathetic, and not a little embarrassing that people define this as an 'assault' or in the words of the OP the cop throws the guy to ground. And this is why there is just so little concern about actual incidents of brutality.....
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Or: The cops get away with their abuse and brutality (when it happens) for many reasons. Part of it is that citizens are often willing to cut cops an exceptional amount of slack. Part is because it isn't documented most of the time. But mostly it's because the cops aren't held accountable when they abuse citizens.

You also didn't answer my question. If I was talking to a police officer, and 30 seconds later he was face-down on the ground while I stood there and did nothing whatsoever to pick him up off the ground, would you give me the same benefit of the doubt as you're giving these officers? Or would you screech about how I assaulted the cop, how I disrespected the police, and deserved to be beaten soundly about the head with a nightstick?
 
ReverendHellh0und said:
of course not.


They are also in an official capacity, so I would say it may be a bit different. In what instance would you be pushing a cop after he danced in front of you?
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None, because he has a gun. But say he did some stupid dance behind you while making monkey noises and you turned around, grabbed is should and asked what his ****ing problem was before realizing it was a cop and then gave him a little shove back? The cop would arrest you. Double standard.
 
whysoserious said:
None of what you said is an excuse to assault someone who has not committed a crime. You're part of the problem. These particular cops are part of the problem.
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It is if they felt as if he was a threat... and violating a person's (and especially a cop's) personal space in this day and age is a threat.
 
VanceMack said:
If thats not a Halloween or costume party, someone needs to talk to the girl in the Daisy Dukes about the office dress code policy.
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*raises hand!*

I'll talk to her about the inappropriate skin tight short shorts...
 
Visbek said:
Yeah, it pretty much did.

The guy was an idiot. However, being an idiot, or even being rude to a cop, is not illegal. Further, the police have citizens at a distinct disadvantage, because they can carry guns, arrest citizens, detain them, even assault them without further investigation. Yelling at the guy, not a big deal. 5 cops surrounding the guy and cursing him out, not acceptable. Shoving him, and then doing nothing when he does a faceplant, not acceptable.



The guy went flying. They didn't even blink twice at him landing face-first on the ground.

It's certainly not the worst thing ever, but it is emblematic of the NYPD's attitude towards the public.

Or, as I said earlier: Imagine if I was talking to a cop, and a moment later the cop was face-down on the ground, without any definitive proof that I shoved him. There is not a doubt in my mind that moments later, the officer would be using force to subdue and arrest me. What would you say in those circumstances?
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Anybody who has participated at a certain level of sports knows that you don't have to be "shoved" in order to "go flying". The guy trips... that can "send you flying" to.
 
Bodhisattva said:
*raises hand!*

I'll talk to her about the inappropriate skin tight short shorts...
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Well...I was hoping to get her to influence an office trend around the secretarial pool...but I guess thats a way we could go...
 
VanceMack said:
Well...I was hoping to get her to influence an office trend around the secretarial pool...but I guess thats a way we could go...
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There is only one here out of 35 or so that I would want to see with that dress code. The rest? No offense... but no.
 
Bodhisattva said:
There is only one here out of 35 or so that I would want to see with that dress code. The rest? No offense... but no.
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Really? Arent you in New Zealand? I thought the US was the only place with excessive wide bodies. 1 out of 35...thats long odds!
 
VanceMack said:
Really? Arent you in New Zealand? I thought the US was the only place with excessive wide bodies. 1 out of 35...thats long odds!
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One might think that: Obesity - Statistics New Zealand

Figure 3 shows New Zealand as the 3rd most obese nation in the world.

USA #1
Mexico #2
N.Z./Aust #3

...and I meant 1 out of 35 at my work. There are still plenty of hot ass Kiwi women that I would love to see in some Daisy Dukes. I also live in a semi-rural area so the people out there (farmers) and at the beach are in good shape. It is when I get into New Plymouth that I see more obese people.
 
Bodhisattva said:
One might think that: Obesity - Statistics New Zealand

Figure 3 shows New Zealand as the 3rd most obese nation in the world.

USA #1
Mexico #2
N.Z./Aust #3

...and I meant 1 out of 35 at my work. There are still plenty of hot ass Kiwi women that I would love to see in some Daisy Dukes. I also live in a semi-rural area so the people out there (farmers) and at the beach are in good shape. It is when I get into New Plymouth that I see more obese people.
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Maybe you could start the office wide Daisy Duke fitness challenge. For everyones health and wellness.
 
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