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Mississippi Imprisons More People Than Russia and China Combined

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In a recent comparison compiled by the Centre for Prison Studies and Prison Policy Initiative, it was found that the state of Mississippi locks up more people per capita than China and Russia combined.
The Magnolia State had 1,155 inmates per 100,000 population in 2013, far out-pacing China's comparatively paltry 121 and Russia's 475. Over the last 30 years, the amount of people incarcerated exploded exponentially, growing by 300 percent. By comparison, the state's population grew only 17 percent during the same time period.
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Read more: Mississippi Imprisons More People Than Russia and China Combined : Society : Chinatopix

Frightening statistics, I should say. And feels like something that mustn’t be happening in my country, but still it does.
Isn’t it too much? Doesn’t it pervert the idea of what a free country should be? Is a sign our country is turning into a police state, and we don’t even notice that?
 
That is what you get for having a for profit police, judicial and punishment (prison) system.... a glowing example of why unbridled capitalism is wrong.
 
So the fact that we actually enforce our laws instead of letting criminals run the streets like China and Russia is a bad thing?
 
Crovax said:
So the fact that we actually enforce our laws instead of letting criminals run the streets like China and Russia is a bad thing?
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China and Russia are police states. BIG government. Communist states that believe in prison camps. You're not only in favor of this, but beating the Communists at their own game? When did you turn red?
 
brothern said:
China and Russia are police states. BIG government. Communist states that believe in prison camps. You're not only in favor of this, but beating the Communists at their own game? When did you turn red?
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Enforcing laws is beating communists at their own games?
 
Crovax said:
Enforcing laws is beating communists at their own games?
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Nothing wrong with enforcing laws unless it’s the only thing you're doing. A decent government and society would be interested in why so many people keep on breaking them and doing something about it.

It's like just replacing the bucket under the dripping roof with a bigger one when it fills up rather than going out and fixing the roof. Part of the problem is taking too much notice of the man selling you the buckets.
 
Crovax said:
Enforcing laws is beating communists at their own games?
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Yes? When was enforcing big governments dictates your thing?

The United States suffers from overcriminalization of "wrongs". Lazy legislators and overzealous prosecutors have sought to solve every problem we face with criminal law. Instead of murder, rape and theft resulting in felonies; harmless business activities like shipping a product in the wrong packaging gets you prosecuted under criminal law.

But hey, if you want to live in country where the government decides what's best for you, be my guest! Just go do in in Russia and China and leave us free people alone.
 
Crovax said:
So the fact that we actually enforce our laws instead of letting criminals run the streets like China and Russia is a bad thing?
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Surely, you don't really believe that. Russia and China let criminals run the street??!!

It's not just Mississippi, nor is it just Russia and China. The US has more prisoners per capita than any other nation.
 
Crovax said:
So the fact that we actually enforce our laws instead of letting criminals run the streets like China and Russia is a bad thing?
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It has absolutely nothing to do with enforcement rates, the US simply sees the solution for most crimes to be locking the person in a (for profit) cage. Is this what you support? Should prison be the one-size-fits all for most crimes?

1 out of 100 Americans are in prison, do you think it's because they all deserve it and are all dangers to society? Are you not troubled at all that we are the richest country yet have the highest incarceration rate in the world?
 
RabidAlpaca said:
It has absolutely nothing to do with enforcement rates, the US simply sees the solution for most crimes to be locking the person in a (for profit) cage. Is this what you support? Should prison be the one-size-fits all for most crimes?

1 out of 100 Americans are in prison, do you think it's because they all deserve it and are all dangers to society? Are you not troubled at all that we are the richest country yet have the highest incarceration rate in the world?
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Yep, they all (if not the vast majority) do deserve it.
I suggest you work a turn at a correctional facility they get back with us.
 
HonestJoe said:
Nothing wrong with enforcing laws unless it’s the only thing you're doing. A decent government and society would be interested in why so many people keep on breaking them and doing something about it.

It's like just replacing the bucket under the dripping roof with a bigger one when it fills up rather than going out and fixing the roof. Part of the problem is taking too much notice of the man selling you the buckets.
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we already know why there are so many people breaking the law, however you get called a racist, or sexist or homophobic when you say it.
 
CRUE CAB said:
Yep, they all (if not the vast majority) do deserve it.
I suggest you work a turn at a correctional facility they get back with us.
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So, more Americans than anyone else deserve to be locked up? Where have we failed as a society, then?
 
RabidAlpaca said:
It has absolutely nothing to do with enforcement rates, the US simply sees the solution for most crimes to be locking the person in a (for profit) cage. Is this what you support? Should prison be the one-size-fits all for most crimes?

1 out of 100 Americans are in prison, do you think it's because they all deserve it and are all dangers to society? Are you not troubled at all that we are the richest country yet have the highest incarceration rate in the world?
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We have a high incarceration rate because we enforce our laws. 1% isnt that much, heck more than 1% of the population are psychopaths that should explain a large portion of the incarceration rate right there
 
CRUE CAB said:
I make no comparisons to other nations or societies. That would be irrelevant.
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OK, then, despite how other nations are doing, it's all irrelevant. We're just doing great, and can obviously afford to keep locking people up.
 
Dittohead not! said:
So, more Americans than anyone else deserve to be locked up? Where have we failed as a society, then?
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No its just that America has the integrity to lock up the people that deserve it where as other countries don't
 
Dittohead not! said:
OK, then, despite how other nations are doing, it's all irrelevant. We're just doing great, and can obviously afford to keep locking people up.
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We can. And do. Seems the US has money to burn. Hey, lets go fight another worthless war.
 
Tameamea said:
Read more: Mississippi Imprisons More People Than Russia and China Combined : Society : Chinatopix

Frightening statistics, I should say. And feels like something that mustn’t be happening in my country, but still it does.
Isn’t it too much? Doesn’t it pervert the idea of what a free country should be? Is a sign our country is turning into a police state, and we don’t even notice that?
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Both countries have had massive "reeducation" campaigns involving millions of their citizens in modern history. People there keep their crimes against the state very, very quiet.
 
Crovax said:
No its just that America has the integrity to lock up the people that deserve it where as other countries don't
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You don't want to have to lock people up, prison is an absolute last resort for people who are a true harm to society as that is what prison is for. There are many alternatives. You don't put people guilty of marijuana possession in prison, you put murderers and sex offenders in there because they are a threat to society.
 
Carjosse said:
You don't want to have to lock people up, prison is an absolute last resort for people who are a true harm to society as that is what prison is for. There are many alternatives. You don't put people guilty of marijuana possession in prison, you put murderers and sex offenders in there because they are a threat to society.
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over 99% of people in jail for drugs in the US are in for dealing them not using them, so you are right you dont put people in prison for possession of marijuana but since the US prison system doesnt either I dont see your point
 
RabidAlpaca said:
It has absolutely nothing to do with enforcement rates, the US simply sees the solution for most crimes to be locking the person in a (for profit) cage. Is this what you support? Should prison be the one-size-fits all for most crimes?

1 out of 100 Americans are in prison, do you think it's because they all deserve it and are all dangers to society? Are you not troubled at all that we are the richest country yet have the highest incarceration rate in the world?
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You seem to be suggesting that incarceration is a profit generator for the state?? Pretty sure that is inaccurate....
 
....And the thread title here is very misleading.

Mississippi incarcerates a fraction of the people held by "China and Russia combined"........
 
Crovax said:
We have a high incarceration rate because we enforce our laws. 1% isnt that much, heck more than 1% of the population are psychopaths that should explain a large portion of the incarceration rate right there
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So there's no underlying or fundamental problems to be examined? We only have an astronomically high incarceration rate compared to the rest of the world because we're the only ones who really enforce laws?

pragmatic said:
You seem to be suggesting that incarceration is a profit generator for the state?? Pretty sure that is inaccurate....
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The prison lobby is powerful and has been able to keep harsh prison sentences with mandatory minimums. Nobody should be profiting from locking human beings in cages.

pragmatic said:
....And the thread title here is very misleading.

Mississippi incarcerates a fraction of the people held by "China and Russia combined"........
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It means in per capita rate of imprisonment not net prisoners.
 
i dont care if its 1%, or 3%, or more

but i do want criminals locked away

if someone decides that robbing the local bank is easier than getting a job, i want them to spend 15-20 years thinking about that decision
 
gdgyva said:
i dont care if its 1%, or 3%, or more

but i do want criminals locked away

if someone decides that robbing the local bank is easier than getting a job, i want them to spend 15-20 years thinking about that decision
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That is not the debate here, robbery is a violent crime and the person who committed it is clearly a threat to society. The debate is about people who are not dangers to society but are locked up anyway, their punishment would be better served while keeping them in society. Putting people in prison can just make the problem worse.
 
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