They Lost Their Bakery, Now Face Bankruptcy: Government’s ‘Discrimination’ [W:1874]

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year2late said:

Maybe it will re-emerge if they actually pay the fine.

You know, the fine that they never paid that caused them to go bankrupt (did they go bankrupt?)

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Have they paid the fine?

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Bodhisattva said:

Have they paid the fine?

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I don't think the judge has ruled on the case yet, so they wouldn't actually have had a fine levied against them yet.

In fact, their case doesn't go up til March 10th.

Oregon bakery discriminated against same-sex couple and face fine of up to $150,000 | LGBT Weekly

The max fine that could be levied against them is $150,000, which is highly unlikely to be the fine they really face if found guilty by the judge.

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The issue still remains making racial discrimination a CRIMINAL offense.

Re: They Lost Their Bakery, Now Face Bankruptcy: Government’s ‘Discrimination’ [W:187

roguenuke said:

I don't think the judge has ruled on the case yet, so they wouldn't actually have had a fine levied against them yet.

In fact, their case doesn't go up til March 10th.

Oregon bakery discriminated against same-sex couple and face fine of up to $150,000 | LGBT Weekly

The max fine that could be levied against them is $150,000, which is highly unlikely to be the fine they really face if found guilty by the judge.

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I am still trying to figure out about the fine. I remember looking it up a while back and the fine should be massively lower. The "up to" was for ongoing offenses with multiple victims.
From what I can tell, this was one couple.

I can't find the info anymore.

Re: They Lost Their Bakery, Now Face Bankruptcy: Government’s ‘Discrimination’ [W:187

year2late said:

I am still trying to figure out about the fine. I remember looking it up a while back and the fine should be massively lower. The "up to" was for ongoing offenses with multiple victims.
From what I can tell, this was one couple.

I can't find the info anymore.

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Basically it was all sensationalism by the couple and their lawyer, a way to gain sympathy so long as the people don't look at the facts about the case itself or the actual laws. By saying what they face this, they can pretend that the couple has already been fined this huge amount of money and paid it, implying their business (the storefront) went under due to that and not the fact that they simply weren't doing as much business after what they did. They had claimed that they sold out the first few days after their story hit, but it didn't take long for that to end. It is much easier to boycott a place like this bakery than it is to increase money spent there.

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roguenuke said:

Basically it was all sensationalism by the couple and their lawyer, a way to gain sympathy so long as the people don't look at the facts about the case itself or the actual laws. By saying what they face this, they can pretend that the couple has already been fined this huge amount of money and paid it, implying their business (the storefront) went under due to that and not the fact that they simply weren't doing as much business after what they did. They had claimed that they sold out the first few days after their story hit, but it didn't take long for that to end. It is much easier to boycott a place like this bakery than it is to increase money spent there.

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http://www.oregon.gov/boli/Legal/docs/FOpdffiles/2013_FOs/Blachana,_LLC,_25-13.pdf

From one perspective this case with a huge $400,000 payout seems to support such a hug fine.

But the reality is that it was $400,000 to the individuals who were discriminated against (banned from the club, harassing phone calls, etc.)

The actual civil fine was $3000. And that case was amazingly more involved than the cake case.