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Do Libertarians and anarchist differ?

I'm Supposn said:
Do Libertarians and anarchist differ?

A traveler ran out of a hotel, threw his bags into a cab and shouted “take me to the airport as fast as you can!!” as he hopped into the cab.

The driver pulled out from the curb and quickly accelerated. The cab reached 90+ and the driver made no effort to slow it down for intersections. When the cab began running through red lights, the traveler cried out in terror “I’m in a hurry but don’t get us killed”!!!
The drive casually answered “relax; I’m an expert driver. I learned from my brother”.
This continued one red light after another.


To all of the terrorized traveler’s cries, the driver’s answer was always the same; “I’m an expert driver. I learned from my brother”.

That was until they reached a green light intersection where from speed exceeding 100 MPH the driver executed a severe emergency stop.
The passenger lifted his bloody head off the cab’s floor and screamed, “You go through one red light after another at over ninety and when you’re doing more or less a hundred you then come to an immediate halt for a green light! WHY!!

The driver explained “prudence demands that we stop here; my brother drives on that cross road”.

That’s the fault I find with Libertarian’s contention that we all be permitted to exercise our own unrestricted judgment: I fear suddenly meeting a Libertarian or a Libertarian’s brother driving across an intersection.
I hope libertarians are opposed to extortion by the use of physical force. I’m not a Libertarian or an anarchist.
Respectfully, Supposn
libertarian, anarchy
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Anarchy can exist in the real world, libertarianism can't. Like a magnet with two north poles
 
Ikari said:
Libertarian philosophy can cover quite a few traditional categories from anarchy to socialism.
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Anarchism has always been socialist/anti-capitalist.

Libertarian socialism includes Anarchism, and Libertarian Marxism.
 
NGNM85 said:
Anarchism has always been socialist/anti-capitalist.

Libertarian socialism includes Anarchism, and Libertarian Marxism.
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To various degrees, yes. But libertarinism in general isn't limited to instances of anarchy.
 
Ikari said:
To various degrees, yes. But libertarinism in general isn't limited to instances of anarchy.
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Right, Libertarian socialism also includes Libertarian Marxism.
 
NGNM85 said:
Meaning what, exactly?
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Meaning that the progression isn't necessarily quantized steps, but rather a continuous progression.
 
Ikari said:
Meaning that the progression isn't necessarily quantized steps, but rather a continuous progression.
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It's still not entirely clear to me what you mean by this. Granted, (Libertarian) Marxism (what we might call; 'real', or; 'authentic' Marxism) and Anarchism share a great deal in common, so much so, the distinction is almost irrelevant. However, that is not the same as saying it doesn't exist.
 
Unitedwestand13 said:
limited government cannot work in the context of the 21st century, where everything is interconnected and the lines defining what is different between what is national and what is local begin to blur. in addition i don't think a small government philosophy can work in a country as big as our own.

it was feasible back in the 1800s when the country was only a sparsely assorted group of colonies, but it is not possible in the 21st century when the united states government has the duty to govern a nation of over 300 million people.
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I've heard lots of folks say this, but I never seem to hear them explain exactly how or why libertarian ideology breaks down due to the differences between the 19th century and the 21st. Perhaps you could share exactly where you see libertarianism's shortcomings in dealing with aspects of life that are unique to the modern world?
 
Summerwind said:
If you're saying that there is an apparent similarity in that anarchists and extreme libertarians in that they only want rules when it suits their individual needs/values, then you're pretty much correct.
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Libertarians do not "only want rules when it suits their individual needs/values".

Libertarians think that the right way to treat others is to leave them in peace. Libertarians believe it is wrong to violate the body or property of others. In essence, libertarians think that other people have a right to run their own lives, provided they act peacefully and honestly.

The driver in the OP is clearly not abiding by the rules to which he agreed. It's not his road, and if he wishes to use it, he ought to comply with any conditions associated with that use.
 
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