Red_Dave

Summerwind

Okay I have to say that I really hate it when someone just posts a link, with no presentation or comment. That being said, its a great article, worth the read.

Arcana XV

Good article, thanx.

Venezuela is a pretty good example that there's no such thing as a one size fits all government. What they have works for them. It probably would fail miserably elsewhere. I had a feeling that things were not as bad as certain media outlets want us to believe. For one thing, the article is right, Venezuelans are extremely politically active and aware and if they were not happy with their lot, you can be sure that they would have tried to change things around. Also, the fear of "socialism" in certain parts of the world is so deeply ingrained, it's difficult for them to accept that any kind of socialist influenced government could actually be successful.

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winston53660

I wonder when aquapub is goig to show up on this thread.

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Volker

It breaks rule #17 and can come with a one point infraction with a thirty days duration.

Summerwind

Wow, I so didn't need to know that. In no way was I intending to imply anyone should be infracted because I don't prefer something. If I had remembered that it was an infractionable offense, I wouldn't have point it out. My bad!

Volker

I don't report it. The head line is like a personal comment, too. It's not your bad.

I wouldn't troll in this thread if Red Dave wouldn't have been a Kosovo independence supporter.

Red_Dave

Really? I thought that was only a breaking news thing?

If i had have said something i would have commented on how anomalous it is to have a south american country where people feel represented by they,re leaders. Espicially in a region where they have often been excluded by any means possible [normally through violence]. Ask a Peruvian or Brazilian how they feel about there government and you,ll see how important this is.

Also how on earth is Venezuela a "threat"?

Volker

Nah, in Breaking News rules it is addressed in #8, not #17.

Venezuela may be a threat for all these people who think, you can oppress people like forever and they won't do someting about it like forever. It is the idea of justice.

You gotta like Hugo Chavez, he almost told Merkel where she should go. He only didn't because he thinks she is a lady and he is a gentleman. He is right

DivineComedy

I love the way the article has links to the "plans":

“'We [in Podemos] are not denying the leadership of Chavez. It is blackmail to make it look like if I say something different I am not recognizing the leadership of the President,' said Garcia. 'There cannot be among us the discomfort that when someone says something different [from the president], I’m going to say that this is a CIA agent, that he is a right-winger.'”

Democracy has nothing whatsoever to fear from the agent's mouth, as democracy demands nothing, so Democracy only has to fear the reaction of the government demands to the agent:

"Democracy demands that the religiously motivated translate their concerns into universal, rather than religion-specific, values."

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Yeah, a wall and a border patrol will protect us. {sound of laughter}