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Cuba Set to Approve New Foreign Investment Projects, Vow to Keep Socialism 'Intact'

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Cuban lawmakers convened for a last parliamentary debate on Monday to agree on new socioeconomic measures in line with freshly renewed trade relations with the United States

Parliamentary groups have already agreed on 40 new projects that welcome foreign investment, though Cuban officials insist that the island’s socialist model will remain intact, Prensa Latina reported.

"Foreign investment neither sells the country nor is it a return to the past, as some have judged,” said Rodrigo Malmierca, Minister of Foreign Trade. “Rather it is a way of strengthening it economically which, when subject to the conditions established by the law, does not threaten the socialist system."

The foreign investment reforms come after the United States issued new regulations earlier this year on travel, telecommunications, internet-based services, business operations, banking and remittances. The measures also allow U.S. companies to establish a presence in Cuba.

The two countries announced last year that they would restore diplomatic relations, and reopened their embassies in Havana and Washington in July.
Cuba Vows to Keep Socialism 'Intact' Despite US Investment | News | teleSUR English

Reforms may not happen in the way the US expected. Vast privatization will not happen but instead a move to worker owned cooperatives will be the move the Cuban government makes.
 
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And what about thier murdering dissidants policy, still intact?

says the confederate...
 
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Cuba Vows to Keep Socialism 'Intact' Despite US Investment | News | teleSUR English

Reforms may not happen in the way the US expected. Vast privatization will not happen but instead a move to worker owned cooperatives will be the move the Cuban government makes.

Until the day democracy comes to Cuba and the single-party dictatorship that has been erected finally collapses.
 
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And what about thier murdering dissidants policy, still intact?

Election reform happened long ago...
 
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Election reform happened long ago...

It's been 3 years since they murdered they the top dissidant, I guess if you were only twelve years old that could seem like a long time ago
 
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This seems like a positive development. Plenty of communist/socialist countries (China, Vietnam, etc.) have claimed to retain their existing economic systems while undergoing extensive privatization, but this seems like an avoidance of that, at least for the time being.

Of course, the major issue that needs to change is in Cuba is in regard to electoral reform/freedom of speech rights, not its social safety net.
 
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Cuba Vows to Keep Socialism 'Intact' Despite US Investment | News | teleSUR English

Reforms may not happen in the way the US expected. Vast privatization will not happen but instead a move to worker owned cooperatives will be the move the Cuban government makes.
Interesting.

I'd like to see how this is going to work with the American companies providing tech & infrastructure.

If it makes for "kinder & gentler" more benevolent corporations, I'd be for it!
 
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It's been 3 years since they murdered they the top dissidant, I guess if you were only twelve years old that could seem like a long time ago

Who is this dissidant? And you have also not recognized what I am talking about... See both recent politcal party reform and electoral refrom from early 2000's on...
 
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And you think an ad hominem attack changes the facts?

so your okay with supporting the confederacy which murdered 10's of millions of black people, and caused the US civil war, but your not okay with cubans causing maybe 0.001% of the death and destruction that your favorite politcal group has?

would you prefer if it Cuba were like capitalist haiti? confederates sure treated them well....
 
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so your okay with supporting the confederacy which murdered 10's of millions of black people, and caused the US civil war, but your not okay with cubans causing maybe 0.001% of the death and destruction that your favorite politcal group has?

would you prefer if it Cuba were like capitalist haiti? confederates sure treated them well....

I don't support the confederacy at all
 
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I'd like to add that, oddly enough, Crovax has a point. While there are some areas that Cuba is advanced in, namely their vastly successful universal healthcare system, I don't think defense of the regime's record, particularly on electoral law is justified, not even, nay, especially, from a leftist perspective. Cuban society is highly militarized, and the military's influence within the country is unparalleled, any form of political dissidence is repressed, regardless of whether or not said dissidence is left or right wing, journalists are jailed en masse, workers are prohibited from going on strike (which is especially ironic), and racism against non-whites is still prevalent and completely ignored by the government. The use of left-wing rhetoric by the Castro's doesn't make up for that.
 
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I don't support the confederacy at all
Did you think that your avatar was the texas state flag?
 
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Who is this dissidant? And you have also not recognized what I am talking about... See both recent politcal party reform and electoral refrom from early 2000's on...

It doesn't matter what reforms you make if you routinely kill the main opposition to the govt it hasn't really reformed at all

Family of Cuba dissident Oswaldo Paya file lawsuit alleging murder by Castro regime - Telegraph

NGO reports on Paya's death, suggests Cuban gov't murdered him | Fox News Latino

Cuban dissident Oswaldo Payá's death 'no accident', claims daughter | World news | The Guardian

One year after suspicious death of Cuba's top dissident, 125 leaders urge U.N. to investigate - UN Watch
 
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Did you think that your avatar was the texas state flag?

No, I just have the confederate flag as my avatar to offend the morons who were okay with the flag for 150 years and only got offered after a racist shot up a church.
 
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No, I just have the confederate flag as my avatar to offend the morons who were okay with the flag for 150 years and only got offered after a racist shot up a church.

i was never okay with that flag, you might as well have a swastika over the map of germany, as far im concerned. White southerners don't feel that way because the confederacy never did anything to them, in fact just the opposite, they stood up for what they beleive in
 
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Cuba Vows to Keep Socialism 'Intact' Despite US Investment | News | teleSUR English

Reforms may not happen in the way the US expected. Vast privatization will not happen but instead a move to worker owned cooperatives will be the move the Cuban government makes.

It could be an interesting experiment. Cooperative ownership models work relatively well. They seem to be a stabilizing factor and strengthen conservative political structures in Germany, where I have worked with them. Where cooperative systems seem to have difficulties and a certain disadvantage is in areas of increasing returns to scale. But they do better than the public company models.
 
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Any outcome ever found? But my bigger point was the reforms...

Do you find these reforms to be sufficient? Sure, they improved upon the status quo, but no electoral system that bans the formation of opposition parties can be described as "free and fair."
 
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Do you find these reforms to be sufficient? Sure, they improved upon the status quo, but no electoral system that bans the formation of opposition parties can be described as "free and fair."

I absolutely do. You can see them in the recent allowance of political parties being allowed to run for office.
 
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Any outcome ever found?

Yes, Cuba's fair and impartial judicial system held the government both criminally and civilly responsible. Raul was removed from power and the family was awarded millions in damages. Oh wait... it's Cuba. The government immediately labeled it an accident and has stonewalled any investigation into it.

But my bigger point was the reforms...

My point was the reforms are just a facade to contine thier brutal dictatorship
 
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Yes, Cuba's fair and impartial judicial system held the government both criminally and civilly responsible. Raul was removed from power and the family was awarded millions in damages. Oh wait... it's Cuba. The government immediately labeled it an accident and has stonewalled any investigation into it.



My point was the reforms are just a facade to contine thier brutal dictatorship

free education free healtchcare better life expectancy infant mortality and literacy rates than the USA? is that a brutal dictatorship?

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I absolutely do. You can see them in the recent allowance of political parties being allowed to run for office.

That's only a nominal reform. Opposition parties are prohibited from campaigning for office, and half to go through a strenuous process to achieve ballot access that they almost always fail to achieve.
 
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free education free healtchcare better life expectancy infant mortality and literacy rates than the USA? is that a brutal dictatorship?

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The statistics you cite are true and good things, but just because Cuba has succeeded in reducing infant mortality, illiteracy, etc. does not mean that its suppression of freedom of speech and the total lack of free and fair elections can be overlooked. A brutal dictatorship and a reduced poverty rate can coexist.
 
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