Vader

All of this Anti-Americanism from a man who quotes a war criminal in each post:

Oh, that is all well and good, but, voice or no voice, the people can always be brought to the bidding of the leaders. That is easy. All you have to do is tell them they are being attacked and denounce the pacifists for lack of patriotism and exposing the country to danger."

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Joby

Göring: Why, of course, the people don't want war. Why would some poor slob on a farm want to risk his life in a war when the best that he can get out of it is to come back to his farm in one piece. Naturally, the common people don't want war; neither in Russia nor in England nor in America, nor for that matter in Germany. That is understood. But, after all, it is the leaders of the country who determine the policy and it is always a simple matter to drag the people along, whether it is a democracy or a fascist dictatorship or a Parliament or a Communist dictatorship.

Gilbert: There is one difference. In a democracy, the people have some say in the matter through their elected representatives, and in the United States only Congress can declare wars.

Göring: Oh, that is all well and good, but, voice or no voice, the people can always be brought to the bidding of the leaders. That is easy. All you have to do is tell them they are being attacked and denounce the pacifists for lack of patriotism and exposing the country to danger. It works the same way in any country.

From the Nuremberg Trial

Some other interesting quotes..

---After the United States gobbled up California and half of Mexico, and we were stripped down to nothing, territorial expansion suddenly becomes a crime. It's been going on for centuries, and it will still go on.

---The victor will always be the judge, and the vanquished the accused.

---To me there are two Hitlers: one who existed until the end of the French war; the other begins with the Russian campaign. In the beginning he was genial and pleasant. He would have extraordinary willpower and unheard-of influence on people. The important thing to remember is that the first Hitler, the man who I knew until the end of the French war, had much charm and goodwill. He was always frank. The second Hitler, who existed from the beginning of the Russian campaign until his suicide, was always suspicious, easily upset, and tense. He was distrustful to an extreme degree.

(hint hint my sig is about some peoples blind support for more war)

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When the government helps millionaires, it's to save the American dream.

Maximus Zeebra

How exactly are the "Islamists", "fascists"? Isnt facism more along the American way these days?

Fascism - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
Does this fit the Islamists nutcase? or the United States?

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I am just waiting for some American to pick apart my 5000 word reasoning, by a slight spelling mistake in a sentence, to prove why I am wrong, and he is right.

American politics, knowledge acquired by the people.

Vader

America is NOT a fascist country ... in fact, we're more free then you or anybody else in the 3rd world hell hole you come from.

If you examine the way the islamists in Palestine, Iraq, Iran, and Afghanistan treat their people, you would clearly see that all the classic signs of fascism are there.

In many of these countries it is illegal to practice any religion but Islam (in Iran and Afghanistan this crime is punishable by death) and the penalty for doing so is often extreme.

These countries all live by a backwards set of 14th century values that really do not have any real place in the current century. The people in these backwards countries treat women and children as chattel and will actively saction the murder of a woman who has sex before marriage (often by stoning).

These people have no freedoms of anykind, their religion runs their government, they are indoctrinated from the time they are born, and they are not allowed redress of greiveneces with their ruling bodies.

I would say these facts CLEARLY make the islamists a group of pyschotic, fascists.

Kindly open your eyes and take a look the situation BEFORE you go badmouthing others.

Your god damned right it does!!! Open your #$@#$!@$ eyes and take a look.

MarcusMagnus

Why don't you drive around with a bumper sticker that says, "F--- the Troops" and see how many people pull you out of your car and beat you.

As long as you support the flag, the troops, the Bible and the president, you are free. If you don't, then you have all these nutcases telling you to leave.

It's really sad. You have all these Americans saying they are free, as one by one, their constitutional rights are being taken away.

Vader

As I am former United States Navy ... I find that retarded remark offensive. However, seeing as how it came from a member of the anti-American class .. I can honestly say ... I don't really give a damn.

I support the troops because I WAS ONE! I support my country because I am AN AMERICAN.

As far as your ideas about losing freedom for having an opinion; you are dead wrong.

We have every form and fashion of religion in this country... including those who sacrifice animals to appease satan.

You clearly have no clue what you're talking about.

Vader

Fair enough.

MarcusMagnus

Yeah, the anti-American class. Those that still belive in the US constitution and that the US government should follow it.

DO you have any reason for supporting your country other than the mere fact it is YOUR country?

Why don't you convert to Islam. You'll have Bushbots telling you to get out.

Sorry to burst your little bubble there. Truth hurts huh?