Chavez Says He May Seek 'Indefinite' Re-election - Page 12

RightinNYC · 07-24-06, 02:18 AM

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Originally Posted by Napoleon's Nightingale

Their public debt was 38.8% of GDP in 2004 and 34.2% of GDP in 2005. That is a decline.

Yes, during the past 18-24 months, Venezuela has benefitted greatly from the oil boom. However, this is an anomaly and completely unattributable to Chavez's policies.

Infinitely more important than that minor downtick are these key facts:

Unemployment rate: 12.2%
Inflation Rate: 16%

revenues: $39.63 billion
expenditures: $41.27 billion

With a GDP of $106 billion, if you're adding 2% of your GDP to your debt even in your biggest economic boom in decades, that's a serious, serious problem.

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Napoleon's Nightingale · 07-24-06, 03:09 AM

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Originally Posted by RightatNYU

However, this is an anomaly and completely unattributable to Chavez's policies.

I disagree. The decline is primarily due to Chavez's policies and more specifically the increase in taxes on oil companies, opening oil fields to other nations, and buying back the country's bonds and buying the bonds of other nations. Yes, increased price of oil does have an impact on this but part of that increase was due to Chavez's policies.

Arch Enemy · 08-02-06, 01:29 AM

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Originally Posted by Trajan Octavian Titus

Ya and the Germans loved Hitler didn't make him any less of a tyrant.

Are you comparing Chavez to Hitler?

Trajan Octavian Titus · 08-02-06, 01:54 AM

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Originally Posted by Arch Enemy

Are you comparing Chavez to Hitler?

Well he is a national socialist.

Volker · 08-02-06, 05:10 AM

He is a Bolivarian, which is completely different.

Arch Enemy · 08-02-06, 12:05 PM

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Originally Posted by Trajan Octavian Titus

Well he is a national socialist.

not true at all

Trajan Octavian Titus · 08-02-06, 01:23 PM

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Originally Posted by Arch Enemy

not true at all

A) He's a nationalist

B) He's a socialist

You do the math.

Arch Enemy · 08-02-06, 02:44 PM

a root of Bolivarianism is Marx's teachings.

Trajan Octavian Titus · 08-02-06, 02:51 PM

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Originally Posted by Arch Enemy

a root of Bolivarianism is Marx's teachings.

The same can be said of fascism:

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I have learned a great deal from Marxism, as I do not hesitate to admit. The difference between them and myself is that I have really put into practice what these peddlers and penpushers have timidly begun...I had only to develop logically what Social Democracy repeatedly failed in because of its attempt to realize its evolution within the framework of democracy. National Socialism is what Marxism might have been if it could have broken its absurd and artificial ties with the democratic order.
(Hitler to Rauschning, The Voice of Destruction, pg. 186).

Red_Dave · 08-02-06, 02:55 PM

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Originally Posted by Trajan Octavian Titus

The same can be said of fascism:

Surely they are polar opossites given the fact Marx advocated the workers takeing control of the means of production and power and Hitler belived everthing should be controled by an all-powerful leader.