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    Re: Does Israel have the right to build more ettlements on the West Bank?

    Quote Originally Posted by Fledermaus View Post
    And when was Palestine Palestinian?
    The clue is in the name
    There never has been a peace process, but rather an annexation process that used the “peace process” as a facade

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    Re: Does Israel have the right to build more ettlements on the West Bank?

    Quote Originally Posted by oneworld2 View Post
    The clue is in the name
    Except back when the territory was called Palestine before Israeli independence, "Palestinian" referred to the Jews living there, while the Arabs were just known as Arabs (or Syrian or Egyptian or Bedouin).

    So the only clue we really have is that one people subsequently changed their name to try to create a historical connection to the historical name of the administrative area once that name had been abandoned by the other group.

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    Re: Does Israel have the right to build more ettlements on the West Bank?

    Quote Originally Posted by CJ 2.0 View Post
    Except back when the territory was called Palestine before Israeli independence, "Palestinian" referred to the Jews living there, while the Arabs were just known as Arabs (or Syrian or Egyptian or Bedouin).
    Quote Originally Posted by wiki
    During the Mandatory Palestine period, the term "Palestinian" was used to refer to all people residing there, regardless of religion or ethnicity, and those granted citizenship by the British Mandatory authorities were granted "Palestinian citizenship"
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Palestinians


    So the only clue we really have is that one people subsequently changed their name to try to create a historical connection to the historical name of the administrative area once that name had been abandoned by the other group.
    Nope, what were Palestinian Jews became Israeli Jews after the creation of the state of Israel....................... obviously the none Jews just remained Palestinians.
    There never has been a peace process, but rather an annexation process that used the “peace process” as a facade

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    Re: Does Israel have the right to build more ettlements on the West Bank?

    Quote Originally Posted by oneworld2 View Post
    The clue is in the name
    When?
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    Re: Does Israel have the right to build more ettlements on the West Bank?

    Quote Originally Posted by Fledermaus View Post
    When?
    During the Mandatory Palestine period, the term "Palestinian" was used to refer to all people residing there, regardless of religion or ethnicity, and those granted citizenship by the British Mandatory authorities were granted "Palestinian citizenship"
    See above
    There never has been a peace process, but rather an annexation process that used the “peace process” as a facade

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    Re: Does Israel have the right to build more ettlements on the West Bank?

    Quote Originally Posted by oneworld2 View Post
    See above
    So "Palestinian" is a Colonial creation.

    Got it.
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    Re: Does Israel have the right to build more ettlements on the West Bank?

    Quote Originally Posted by Fledermaus View Post
    And when was Palestine Palestinian?
    What does any of this even matter? Even if the idea of Palestinian nationhood was invented yesterday would it have any practical import whatsoever?

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    Re: Does Israel have the right to build more ettlements on the West Bank?

    Quote Originally Posted by Sherman123 View Post
    What does any of this even matter? Even if the idea of Palestinian nationhood was invented yesterday would it have any practical import whatsoever?
    Ironic isn't it that the only people to allow Palestinian self rule in Gaza were the Israelis.
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    Re: Does Israel have the right to build more ettlements on the West Bank?

    Quote Originally Posted by Fledermaus View Post
    Ironic isn't it that the only people to allow Palestinian self rule in Gaza were the Israelis.
    I guess? I mean, given the history of the region the in-feasibility of an independent Palestine isn't shocking.

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    Re: Does Israel have the right to build more ettlements on the West Bank?

    Quote Originally Posted by oneworld2 View Post
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Palestinians




    Nope, what were Palestinian Jews became Israeli Jews after the creation of the state of Israel....................... obviously the none Jews just remained Palestinians.
    There's a difference between the term describing the residence in the territory back then and the term describing the people called Palestinians nowadays.
    The territory that was named Palestine wasn't "Palestinian" in the sense that it was under the control or was belonging to the people nowadays called Palestinians.
    It's very important to understand such basic terms.
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