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    Re: U.S. Abstains as U.N. Security Council Votes to Condemn Israeli Settlements

    Quote Originally Posted by justabubba View Post
    i believe this forecasts the UN's inclination to soon recognize the sovereign nation of Palestine; to complete and fulfill the Palestine Mandate, which obligation was passed from the League of Nations to the UN
    You mean the mandate where the entire area was set aside for a Jewish national home and to facilitate close Jewish settlement of the land?

    That mandate?

    I have to admit you have me a bit confused...

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    Re: U.S. Abstains as U.N. Security Council Votes to Condemn Israeli Settlements

    Quote Originally Posted by CJ 2.0 View Post
    You mean the mandate where the entire area was set aside for a Jewish national home and to facilitate close Jewish settlement of the land?

    That mandate?

    I have to admit you have me a bit confused...
    AFAIK the Mandate never contained anything akin to giving " the entire area of Palestine " for the Jewish homeland. It just reconfirmed that a Jewish state should be created there and put the British in control of that decision.

    The British Peel Plan clearly indicates that the British never saw the whole of mandate Palestine as the area to be ceded for a Jewish state as is obvious from the map below

    https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikiped...aa/PeelMap.png
    There never has been a peace process, but rather an annexation process that used the “peace process” as a facade

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    Re: U.S. Abstains as U.N. Security Council Votes to Condemn Israeli Settlements

    Quote Originally Posted by oneworld2 View Post
    AFAIK the Mandate never contained anything akin to giving " the entire area of Palestine " for the Jewish homeland. It just reconfirmed that a Jewish state should be created there and put the British in control of that decision.

    The British Peel Plan clearly indicates that the British never saw the whole of mandate Palestine as the area to be ceded for a Jewish state as is obvious from the map below

    https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikiped...aa/PeelMap.png
    The British in the 30s were already violating the mandate. They controlled the territory pursuant to a mandate that was intended to facilitate close settlement of the land by Jews. That actually did mean all.

    That the British violated it and ensured that millions of Jews had no escape from Europe is precisely the reason why us Jews are done relying on the goodwill of others to protect us. Cause as with the US "guarantees" of security and territorial integrity to the Ukraine, the British were fully prepared to violate their obligations for their own geopolitical benefit. That millions of Jews were murdered as a result didn't (and clearly still doesn't) bother them in the least.

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    Re: U.S. Abstains as U.N. Security Council Votes to Condemn Israeli Settlements

    Quote Originally Posted by CJ 2.0 View Post
    The British in the 30s were already violating the mandate. They controlled the territory pursuant to a mandate that was intended to facilitate close settlement of the land by Jews. That actually did mean all.

    That the British violated it and ensured that millions of Jews had no escape from Europe is precisely the reason why us Jews are done relying on the goodwill of others to protect us. Cause as with the US "guarantees" of security and territorial integrity to the Ukraine, the British were fully prepared to violate their obligations for their own geopolitical benefit. That millions of Jews were murdered as a result didn't (and clearly still doesn't) bother them in the least.
    The British violated many agreements concerning Palestine/Arabs/Jews for their own colonialist interests but that has nothing to do with your original claim

    Where can we see that the " entire area of mandate Palestine " was ceded for the Jewish state anywhere ?
    There never has been a peace process, but rather an annexation process that used the “peace process” as a facade

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    Re: U.S. Abstains as U.N. Security Council Votes to Condemn Israeli Settlements

    Quote Originally Posted by CJ 2.0 View Post
    That the British violated it and ensured that millions of Jews had no escape from Europe is precisely the reason why us Jews are done relying on the goodwill of others to protect us. Cause as with the US "guarantees" of security and territorial integrity to the Ukraine, the British were fully prepared to violate their obligations for their own geopolitical benefit. That millions of Jews were murdered as a result didn't (and clearly still doesn't) bother them in the least.
    Moving forward to today's world, are Jews generally unsafe outside Israel? In Canada? The US? With animosity aroused by Israel and its actions, Israel hardly looks like a safe haven for Jews ...
    "My aim is not to be consistent with my previous statements on a given question, but to be consistent with truth as it may present itself to me at a given moment. The result has been that I have grown from truth to truth." - Gandhi

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