Apocalypse said:
You're basically talking here about how Israel is launching attacks at Gaza, how the blockade on Gaza exists, how surprising it is that in the year 2015 when there was no war in Gaza and there was towards the end of the year a new wave of WB-originated terrorism or as it's known "the knives intifada" there were a lot more Palestinian deaths in the WB than in Gaza, emphasizing how many more.
You're basically listing the details and expecting what exactly? That it'll be an argument against Israel and its actions in the WB and Gaza? That it would show Israel violates a cease fire?
Of course they present arguments that are against Israeli policies.
If we take the “ knives intifada “, it becomes starkly apparent that placing your civilian population , illegally , in regions where you are brutally occupying and repressing the locals cannot be portrayed as an action that seeks to protect them.
No illegal settlers in Gaza , no victims of any “ knives intifada “ in Gaza.
Tons of illegal settlers in the WB , all the Israeli victims of the “ knives intifada “ to be found in the WB.
So the, “ occupation is necessary to protect Israeli citizens “ argument goes straight out of the window.
And a point of clarification on the “ knives intifada “ victims and their attackers
Those Palestinians that attacked the army/security personnel are not committing terrorist acts. The targeting of occupying soldiers/forces is deemed to be legitimate resistance to a foreign military occupation .
The Palestinians responsible have just become illegal combatants , that’s all.
Despite your unwillingness to recognize this fact and your rush to paint any action carried out by Palestinians as “ terrorism “ , it is still and remains a fact not all of the incidents qualify.
You recently commented on the IDF soldier that was filmed assassinating a Palestinian that was lying on the ground after an attack on an Israeli soldier in Bethlehem and referred to him, incorrectly, as a terrorist.
Anyone would think that your MO was to make the title “ Palestinian “ synonymous with the word “terrorist” .
What should the Palestinians learn from the conduct of the differing factions that are their representatives?
That the PLO/Fatah , having suspended its armed struggle for a while , has gained what ? A cessation of illegal settlement building ? Nope
An end to the crippling , brutal and repressive Israeli occupation of the Palestinians with the wholesale violation of their every right , every day of their lives ? Nope.
The realisation of their own state ? Nope.
Should they, the Palestinians , realize that it matters not whether their representation/resistance is secular or religious based. Violent or none violent. That the end result is the same , ongoing subjugation and a big NO to self determination
WRT the Israeli blockade of Gaza , well , what can we say ?
That the aim was to undermine support for Hamas there ?
Seems like it’s been a bit of a failure on that score.
That it stops arms into Gaza ?
Well yes it will to a degree but I I would say that the number of rockets they fire and the firefights they have with the IDF when the next slaughter of Gazan Palestinians gets underway seems to undermine the effectiveness of the blockade on that score too.
That Israeli Jews are happy to see a whole mass of people crammed into a massive open prison living in squalid hopelessness so long as they don’t try to spoil their peace and tranquillity whilst they enjoy their own freedom to determine their lives for themselves.
Targeted killings/extra judicial slayings , should we blindly support that ? Should people turn a blind eye to the many many people , innocent people , killed/maimed by the same missiles just for being in the wrong place at the wrong time ?
What about those on the lists of victims who are not specified as belonging to any particular group and are designated as “ terrorists “ simply because they have been killed by the IDF ?
There’s quite a lot to talk about really. Well for those who can see past the Israeli propaganda there is