When will USA accept their crimes against Japan? - Page 33

John Hobbes319 · 07-09-08, 09:18 AM

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You can compare it very well.

You can very well compare what happened in Auschwitz, Hiroshima, Nagasaki or Dresden.

The main difference is, that people who did it from Japan or Germany had to go to court house after the war, while people from America who did it, got money from their government.

Carpet bombings and the like were not war crimes at the time, that is why no Japanese or Germans were tried for the carpet bombings of Britain or China, however, it WAS a war crime to intentionally commit genocide.

John Hobbes319 · 07-09-08, 09:22 AM

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In this stage of war there was no need for Americans to do something at all. They could have signed a paper and could have gone home. This is not what they wanted. They wanted to demonstrate power.

Completely fallacious, the Japanese refused to surrender even after the bomb was dropped on Hiroshima in fact there was a palace coup when the emperor tried to surrender, those who sought capitulation were in the minority, the war hawks in the Japanese government were in the majority and they wanted to fight on to the end, the only agreement they would have accepted would have left not only the emperor but them in power as well, the terms that were offered were not ones the allies could accept.

Even Japanese leadership itself (including the emperor) has admitted that the dropping of the atomic bombs were necessary to end the war.

Volker · 07-23-08, 03:50 PM

Yes, John Hobbes319, I admit, I gave the tip about section eight.

Snow - Informer

From my side, I am done with it. I am willing to uniliterally end this feud here and now.

Australianlibertarian · 07-24-08, 02:34 AM

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We see this kind of sentiments with Obama voters, too. Admittedly, new coup for you is not really the average American, but it shows, that the American contempt for mankind is a general phenomenon and it has nothing to do with political orientation.

As opposed to Nazi German contempt for Jews, Soviets and Roma?

Do you always make sweeping generalizations?

Australianlibertarian · 07-24-08, 02:37 AM

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This is about downing Flight 655 and killing 290 people in a passengers air plane.
Press TV - No apologies for downing Flight 655

I think, it answers the question. Don't expect apologies from terrorists.

The US will accept their crimes after being beaten into submission.

No. It just proves the George Bush Snr is a ****ing jerk. Care to make any other sweeping generalizations based on the comments of politicians?

Volker · 07-24-08, 10:56 AM

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As opposed to Nazi German contempt for Jews, Soviets and Roma?

Because Nazi Germany had this sentiment, it is ok for Americans to have it, too? Did you ever hear about this learning from history thingy?

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Do you always make sweeping generalizations?

There was a poll here on this topic and it has been discussed here. Even though DebatePolitics is not representative in a scientifical way, the results here are pretty clear, these generalizations are obviously justified.

Volker · 07-24-08, 11:02 AM

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No. It just proves the George Bush Snr is a ****ing jerk. Care to make any other sweeping generalizations based on the comments of politicians?

So let's take this thread. How many Americans did you see here accepting their crimes against Japan and how many had excuses, pointed fingers or tried to change the topic?

It's kinda difficult for you to defend Americans, then they are coming here in this same thread to support the generalizations about them.

Joby · 07-24-08, 01:51 PM

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Originally Posted by AkiraYamato

I always wonder, when USA will accept, that they commited terrible crimes against the japanese people?

In WW II americans killed most japanese soldiers even if they surrendered.

Do you have a source for this?

I think you have it the other way around: of all the American POWs taken by Japan, only something like 30% returned (whereas the Nazis returned over 90%)

Have you ever heard of the experiments done on American POWs, by the way?

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When americans sunk a a japanese ship, it was common to kill the survivors.

When the Japanese saw American sailors in the water, they set their depth charges to 3 feet and let 'em rip. Literally.

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And the most terrible crime in entire history...Hiroshima and Nagasaki...

Ever hear of Nanking? Or how it was raped?

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Japan is a rich country, we want no money. We just want that USA stand to their crimes and honor the victims of that terrible massacres.

Wouldn't making Japan a rich country cover the apology?

That said, it's very unfortunate that what happened did, indeed, happen. It's horrible that that many people died, both combatants and non-combatants alike. I wish it hadn't have had to go down like that.

Consider this to be the Official AMerican Apology. It's the most you're gonna get.

Volker · 07-24-08, 02:04 PM

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Do you have a source for this?

He has been banned long ago, what should this question be good for?

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Ok, you don't have to bring evidence for my generalizations being correct anymore, others did in this thread before you came here.

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That said, it's very unfortunate that what happened did, indeed, happen. It's horrible that that many people died, both combatants and non-combatants alike. I wish it hadn't have had to go down like that.

Consider this to be the Official AMerican Apology. It's the most you're gonna get.

I'm not Japanese, but quiet frankly, this is not even good enough for a poor joke, much less for an apology.