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    Re: What is Putin's motivation?

    Quote Originally Posted by Tigerace117 View Post


    Somebody like you is in no position to lecture anybody else on morality.
    And with your comments you are?
    Yes, but what Tigerace actually said was that a "Neo Nazi catching a bullet" is "not murder in his book."
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    If we continue to characterize these mass killings as events disassociated from Islamic doctrine and faith, we will fail to identify and thus defeat our enemy.

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    Re: What is Putin's motivation?

    Quote Originally Posted by coldjoint View Post
    Hmm.....let's compare.

    You are the one who called for the murder of innocent Americans based in their religion, justifying a foiled terror attack in Kansas with the claim that "Islam only respects force" and repeatedly defending those efforts.

    I stated that I wouldn't shed any tears if the Neo-Nazis were all gunned down and if a Neo Nazi pointed a firearm at me, that's clear justification for me to defend myself with lethal force.

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    Re: What is Putin's motivation?

    Quote Originally Posted by MaggieD View Post
    I'm not sure if I'm crossing it either. Much of it comes from Obama's actions. This was supposedly reported back in July. It us only NOW that Obama's administration is talking about retaliation. I combine THAT decision with his decision to abstain on the UN vote, and it quacks like it's meant as a middle finger to Trump.

    I'm inclined to believe that both of these decisions together are game changers and suspiciously timed. I also think that, had HC won the election, Obama would have put her in the loop of these game changers... if, in fact, he would have done them at all.

    I also think Obama's ego us much larger than I'd ever imagined. 'Course I would think that about any president who mentioned running for a third term in whatever context it came about.
    The deportation of the Russians was absolutely "timed".

    New Years is the biggest and most important Russian holiday. It's as big or bigger than Christmas is here. Obama gave these people 72 hours to leave with their families knowing full well that the timing of his order would guarantee that these people would be "celebrating" their New Years either on a plane or in an airport. My wife who is Russian picked up on this immediately. We were watching the news when the announcement was made and her first reaction was to exclaim... "what an ASSHOLE!" Then she explained the "timing" part to me and I thought... 'Hmmm, I could buy that".

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    Re: What is Putin's motivation?

    Quote Originally Posted by Tigerace117 View Post
    Hmm.....let's compare.

    You are the one who called for the murder of innocent Americans based in their religion, justifying a foiled terror attack in Kansas with the claim that "Islam only respects force" and repeatedly defending those efforts.

    I stated that I wouldn't shed any tears if the Neo-Nazis were all gunned down and if a Neo Nazi pointed a firearm at me, that's clear justification for me to defend myself with lethal force.
    Killed because of political beliefs, shame on you.
    If we continue to characterize these mass killings as events disassociated from Islamic doctrine and faith, we will fail to identify and thus defeat our enemy.

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    Re: What is Putin's motivation?

    Quote Originally Posted by coldjoint View Post
    Killed because of political beliefs, shame on you.


    The hypocrisy on display here is hilarious. You have no problem with innocent Americans being blown up in their own homes, yet you whine if armed Nazis might potentially be shot.

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    Re: What is Putin's motivation?

    Quote Originally Posted by ataraxia View Post
    Does anyone know what may be going through Putin's head?
    He has had a very clear and very obvious agenda, that which has been to diminish America’s influence in the world and belittle her leaders.

    The shocking thing (at least to me), is how often you will actually see Americans praise and support Vladimir Putin in light of this.
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    Re: What is Putin's motivation?

    Quote Originally Posted by Serenity View Post
    He has had a very clear and very obvious agenda, that which has been to diminish America’s influence in the world and belittle her leaders.

    The shocking thing (at least to me), is how often you will actually see Americans praise and support Vladimir Putin in light of this.
    You see it in the UK, as well. Social media is awash with Putin fan boys.
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    Re: What is Putin's motivation?

    Quote Originally Posted by Tigerace117 View Post


    The hypocrisy on display here is hilarious. You have no problem with innocent Americans being blown up in their own homes, yet you whine if armed Nazis might potentially be shot.
    Yes, it is.
    If we continue to characterize these mass killings as events disassociated from Islamic doctrine and faith, we will fail to identify and thus defeat our enemy.

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    Re: What is Putin's motivation?

    Quote Originally Posted by coldjoint View Post
    Yes, it is.
    Congrats at dodging making a cohesive argument yet again.

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    Re: What is Putin's motivation?

    Quote Originally Posted by Tigerace117 View Post
    Congrats at dodging making a cohesive argument yet again.
    You did it for me.
    If we continue to characterize these mass killings as events disassociated from Islamic doctrine and faith, we will fail to identify and thus defeat our enemy.

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