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    Re: Refugees.

    The refugees need immediate help, i am told. i hope i am the man for the job, as i wouldn't like to live like that either. there are some ghost towns in america that could house these people, and, if they were to be lifted there by ship, they could become citizens and contribute to a powerful economy. there are many ghost towns in europe too that could be occupied by them, with old machinery for immediate jobs, yes? i figure it is about a week by rails and ships, maybe shorter?

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    Re: Refugees.

    Somewhere down the line, an institution (such as shipping or real estate) will have to accommodate refugees at little to no cost. The fact is, many institutions cannot afford the exchange of humanitarian good will for resources or raw materials as you have suggested.

    It's a great idea, but I fear it is too late for many refugees which are presently displaced. Hopefully future generations will be able to coexist with us regardless of their residential status. Isolationism will work to some degree, in certain circumstances, but now is not the time to protest against refugees crossing our borders.
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    Re: Refugees.

    I would direct them all to the UK where everything is free.

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    If the refugees need funding, there might be a way that the church can help? we always hear about the roman catholic church helping, so why doesn't the ayatollah of iran and others like him send them food aid? while this might work, it is not a charity we want to create, so, maybe not.

    Why don't they dig mines? they could, if they are in a forested area, dig for all sorts of commodities? this would see them just dig a big hole, instead of being bored, of course. you never know what they might find, of course. but that is a dreamy idea, most of them will not find much.

    If the refugees were to get fishing nets, they might be able to fish if they are on the coast or near a lake, alleviating some of pressure on the authorities to feed them.

    If the authorities were to get all the 'confiscated' apple tablets, they could work in a commerce sort of venture. these tablets and phones can be used to do clerical work on, and, then they would be able to yield dividends for various companies at this festive time of buying, of course.

    Then, there are other things that are being recalled - what will they do with them? if the community leaders were to sign forms, they would be able to reap in this lot of assets, and then use them to make money, of course.

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    Re: Refugees.

    There must be a way to get cheap medicine to the needy. if medicine is manufactured like food, then there must be waste. i know far a fact, as a medical recipient or person that uses pills that expire, and knowing they cannot keep an indefinite shelf life, they might get a tax deduction for early orders. this would be where they need to order more because the medicine is about to expire, and instead of throwing it away, they offer discount prices for medicine they need.

    This would be where they are ordering a 'cocktail of drugs,' where the delivery costs mean they could get new stock and get it all together from one delivery if they order it all together, and, of course, save money this way. the state could buy the medicine at a agreed upon price, and then the medicine could be delivered. of course, there is also the fact that manufacturers make excess all the time, so, they could get a discount rate when, for example, tuberculosis is out of season, yes?

    This endeavor could be made even more cost saving if they did it with whole malls at once. if they were to order from them and make known there is a market for one week to expiry medications, and clothing that will be burned or something, as the summer stock is coming in or whatever, then they could make deals this way too.

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    Re: Refugees.

    Maybe the best way to look at how the refugees can settle in and prosper is to observe the way other continents were colonized? when the europeans landed, they brought food and guns with them, and met up with tribes of indians and africans and chinese that that they found a plentiful source of food from, and that is how they managed to remain with the new continents and people they met.

    As they settled in, they managed to build, somehow, things from home. all they had were saws, hammers and nails, building ports for themselves. then, they managed to chop wood for the buildings themselves. then, they managed to mine mountains, out of their own pocket, to get metal for steel, making many things that were rather raw by today's standards for themselves. so, they had what today the amish have.

    So, maybe the best way to help them is to have them help themselves? maybe dumping a lot of building materials and things they will need will lead to a flourishing area economy one day, maybe even before christmas? they could, as they have found copper and metals, build smelters for themselves. they could just be given a plan or progression, get enough food and medicine and clothes, and then declare a profit when they start seeing one - i am sure they can be self reliant before christmas with the plans that have been carried out so far.

    Then they will be full on citizens, and, be able to pay taxes. if they were to deal with the basic things that every community needs, like, for example, a printing press, they could use it or sell it, as, these big tools are always needed - with very little financial incentives profit wise, they are often overlooked, yes?

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    Re: Refugees.

    Quote Originally Posted by BrettNortje View Post
    Maybe the best way to look at how the refugees can settle in and prosper is to observe the way other continents were colonized? when the europeans landed, they brought food and guns with them, and met up with tribes of indians and africans and chinese that that they found a plentiful source of food from, and that is how they managed to remain with the new continents and people they met.

    As they settled in, they managed to build, somehow, things from home. all they had were saws, hammers and nails, building ports for themselves. then, they managed to chop wood for the buildings themselves. then, they managed to mine mountains, out of their own pocket, to get metal for steel, making many things that were rather raw by today's standards for themselves. so, they had what today the amish have.

    So, maybe the best way to help them is to have them help themselves? maybe dumping a lot of building materials and things they will need will lead to a flourishing area economy one day, maybe even before christmas? they could, as they have found copper and metals, build smelters for themselves. they could just be given a plan or progression, get enough food and medicine and clothes, and then declare a profit when they start seeing one - i am sure they can be self reliant before christmas with the plans that have been carried out so far.

    Then they will be full on citizens, and, be able to pay taxes. if they were to deal with the basic things that every community needs, like, for example, a printing press, they could use it or sell it, as, these big tools are always needed - with very little financial incentives profit wise, they are often overlooked, yes?
    I wonder if Europeans would have been able to sustain themselves without the decimation of Native populations. The colonies did more than just live off the land. Even as nations with a common enemy, indigenous tribes played a role in repelling the British Army and French Army.

    During the period of time when settlers from Europe first colonized the Americas, a few different nations were vying for power in various regions of the US which meant that the establishment of a nation required nearly perpetual war.

    If we can compare the refugee crisis to perpetual war, what else can we compare to perpetual war?
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    Re: Refugees.

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    Proverbially, no good deed goes unpunished. The best we have to offer thus far is, throw some money in their general direction and pass it off to the next generation to handle.

    Although, if that Saudi bill remains law, it will be interesting to see how the international tribunal community receives international complaints in the matter of refugee crises. Trial lawyers probably fantasize about that kind of thing. Maybe they could sue for citizenship.
    What is the international tribunal community? And whose complaints are they receiving?
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    Re: Refugees.

    Quote Originally Posted by BrettNortje View Post
    Maybe the best way to look at how the refugees can settle in and prosper is to observe the way other continents were colonized? when the europeans landed, they brought food and guns with them, and met up with tribes of indians and africans and chinese that that they found a plentiful source of food from, and that is how they managed to remain with the new continents and people they met.

    As they settled in, they managed to build, somehow, things from home. all they had were saws, hammers and nails, building ports for themselves. then, they managed to chop wood for the buildings themselves. then, they managed to mine mountains, out of their own pocket, to get metal for steel, making many things that were rather raw by today's standards for themselves. so, they had what today the amish have.

    So, maybe the best way to help them is to have them help themselves? maybe dumping a lot of building materials and things they will need will lead to a flourishing area economy one day, maybe even before christmas? they could, as they have found copper and metals, build smelters for themselves. they could just be given a plan or progression, get enough food and medicine and clothes, and then declare a profit when they start seeing one - i am sure they can be self reliant before christmas with the plans that have been carried out so far.

    Then they will be full on citizens, and, be able to pay taxes. if they were to deal with the basic things that every community needs, like, for example, a printing press, they could use it or sell it, as, these big tools are always needed - with very little financial incentives profit wise, they are often overlooked, yes?
    What are you talking about? Refugees from Syria?
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    Re: Refugees.

    Did you ever think since most refugees are Islamic there could be a problem these people need to fix? I think they need to stay and make their countries livable.

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