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Only a centralized, world government can solve all of the world's problems

Kelfuma

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Like seriously, how else are we going to be able to do it? If anything, it would be based off of the US government. We're the wealthiest and most powerful country on the planet and it's because the states have surrendered their sovereignty and right of self-determination but still retain some self regulation.

The UN will never work; it's no different from an internet forum (like this one). It relies on donors and advertisement to stay alive so whoever has the most money has the most influence.

How else are we going to solve all of the world's problems? Prayer? Messiah? Wind turbines? Technology? Get real, we need a world government more than ever.

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Kelfuma said:
Like seriously, how else are we going to be able to do it? If anything, it would be based off of the US government. We're the wealthiest and most powerful country on the planet and it's because the states have surrendered their sovereignty and right of self-determination but still retain some self regulation.

The UN will never work; it's no different from an internet forum (like this one). It relies on donors and advertisement to stay alive so whoever has the most money has the most influence.

How else are we going to solve all of the world's problems? Prayer? Messiah? Wind turbines? Technology? Get real, we need a world government more than ever.
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The U.S should not and will not compromise with Russia, China, Saudia Arabia, North Korea etc... A lot of countries have fundamentally different worldviews. A lot of these worldviews are absolutely incompatible with our western values.

Countries should keep their sovereignty & people should stop trying to impose their worldview on the country they just immigrated to.
 
Kelfuma said:
Like seriously, how else are we going to be able to do it?
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Do something that doesn't need to be done?
Sorry, no.


Kelfuma said:
If anything, it would be based off of the US government.
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Not likely. If it comes about is more likely it will be based on a socialism/istic system.


Kelfuma said:
We're the wealthiest and most powerful country on the planet
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Not for long.


Kelfuma said:
and it's because the states have surrendered their sovereignty and right of self-determination but still retain some self regulation.
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No. And no the States didn't actually do that. The Federal Government was supposed to be far more limited than it is now.


Kelfuma said:
How else are we going to solve all of the world's problems? Prayer? Messiah? Wind turbines? Technology? Get real, we need a world government more than ever.
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Get real? iLOL

You are speaking of a pipe dream. We do not need a world government.
You will never solve all of the worlds problems because of the diversity of human kind.
You could unite everyone under one flag and you would still see massive problems.
 
I disagree with every syllable, word, vowel, consonant, and dangling participle of the original post.

Humans leaders have, by and large, proven to be too inherently greedy, corrupt, and self-serving for an all-powerful 'world government' to ever work.

a. The voters of each nation should be free to decide the course of their own sovereign nations. And so on down to the States, parishes, and provinces.
There is not, and never will be, a one-size-fits-all solution to the world's problems.

b. The further away any government's leaders are away from the voters and tax-paying citizens, the more those 'leaders' become detached from reality and the will of the people.

No, good and dear original poster, you are wrong on this one.

Very much wrong.
:)
 
Kelfuma said:
If anything, it would be based off of the US government.
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Oh you :lol:

Regardless of the practicability of a world government, I don't see how it's the panacea of the world's ailments and injustices, as they'll simply carry over, albeit on a larger scale. Ironically enough, your suggestion of the U.S as a model of a world government is self-defeating. As in the U.S, a privileged elite will tilt the system in their favor, a race or any other demographic will have endue advantage at the expense of other peoples, and corruption and special interest will reign supreme. If anything, a world government is going to accentuate the sins of bad governance by realizing them on an unprecedented scale.
 
Gaztopian said:
Oh you :lol:

Regardless of the practicability of a world government, I don't see how it's the panacea of the world's ailments and injustices, as they'll simply carry over, albeit on a larger scale. Ironically enough, your suggestion of the U.S as a model of a world government is self-defeating. As in the U.S, a privileged elite will tilt the system in their favor, a race or any other demographic will have endue advantage at the expense of other peoples, and corruption and special interest will reign supreme. If anything, a world government is going to accentuate the sins of bad governance by realizing them on an unprecedented scale.
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Having tilted world trade and allocation of investment and production in their favor the US elite has brought about 1.5 billion people out of starvation and stark poverty into the global middle class. Not bad far a bunch of egoistic yingo Yankees. ;)
 
Kelfuma said:
Like seriously, how else are we going to be able to do it? If anything, it would be based off of the US government. We're the wealthiest and most powerful country on the planet and it's because the states have surrendered their sovereignty and right of self-determination but still retain some self regulation.

The UN will never work; it's no different from an internet forum (like this one). It relies on donors and advertisement to stay alive so whoever has the most money has the most influence.

How else are we going to solve all of the world's problems? Prayer? Messiah? Wind turbines? Technology? Get real, we need a world government more than ever.

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Government can mean a lot of different things, but yes. You are right on track. There are a number of public goods that not only are more expensive to produce by individual nations. They cannot be produced by even the powerful nations like the US alone.

But it will be a hard sell, if you call it "Global Government".
 
joG said:
Having tilted world trade and allocation of investment and production in their favor the US elite has brought about 1.5 billion people out of starvation and stark poverty into the global middle class. Not bad far a bunch of egoistic yingo Yankees. ;)
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Is that right? Foxcon's workers must be on their knees thanking the U.S.

Nevertheless, there's something revealing in your otherwise customary post of American self-adulation. The U.S can't do wrong, and if it does wrong, it must be benevolent wrong. Likewise, the U.S isn't an empire, but if it's an empire, it's a benevolent empire.
 
Gaztopian said:
Is that right? Foxcon's workers must be on their knees thanking the U.S.

Nevertheless, there's something revealing in your otherwise customary post of American self-adulation. The U.S can't do wrong, and if it does wrong, it must be benevolent wrong. Likewise, the U.S isn't an empire, but if it's an empire, it's a benevolent empire.
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From what I have read and discussed about the history of great powers, the US has been rather on the nice guy side. It has been a hegemony and not so much an empire. That does make a difference.

But You digress. That is probably because you dislike the monster to have a beneficial side like that of bringing all those wretchedly poor into bread, cloths and hygienic bathrooms. And as you cannot disprove the economic mechanisms you try to point fingers. Rather pathetic, if you would ask.
 
Kelfuma said:
Like seriously, how else are we going to be able to do it? If anything, it would be based off of the US government. We're the wealthiest and most powerful country on the planet and it's because the states have surrendered their sovereignty and right of self-determination but still retain some self regulation.

The UN will never work; it's no different from an internet forum (like this one). It relies on donors and advertisement to stay alive so whoever has the most money has the most influence.

How else are we going to solve all of the world's problems? Prayer? Messiah? Wind turbines? Technology? Get real, we need a world government more than ever.

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I don't know if even that could work. The British owned almost all the world at one point, but gave it up. Is a global government even possible? I don't think at this stage of human evolution that it is.
 
No thanks, what we need is to become a multiplanetary species with local governments, so we can get far enough away from statists like you who want a say in EVERYTHING.

Only a "government can fix anything" statist can look at the problems world governments cannot solve, often caused by government, and reason that its because the government wasn't bigger and more totalitarian.

**** that, save me from these idiots please Elon Musk! Get me off this rock!
 
Kelfuma said:
Like seriously, how else are we going to be able to do it? If anything, it would be based off of the US government. We're the wealthiest and most powerful country on the planet and it's because the states have surrendered their sovereignty and right of self-determination but still retain some self regulation.

The UN will never work; it's no different from an internet forum (like this one). It relies on donors and advertisement to stay alive so whoever has the most money has the most influence.

How else are we going to solve all of the world's problems? Prayer? Messiah? Wind turbines? Technology? Get real, we need a world government more than ever.

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It is not the nature of mankind to act as one. Any attempt to force this upon people is an affront to human nature and violates the natural code.

From the beginning of modern man, people of similar thought and idea came together for mutual benefit and protection. That is how it works.

It is a pipe dream fantasy to believe it possible for all people to accept each other and live in harmony. That is not how nature works.

Globalists are delusional to think some kind of Star Trek "federation" would ever work.
 
The United Nations has been doing a great job,eh?

Just sayin.

Was the League of Nations able to stop WWII from happening?

Read some history books and wake up.

:peace
 
I think we're way to divided as a species for this to ever work. Maybe in a few hundred years, maybe in a thousand. Perhaps never.
 
Lachean said:
No thanks, what we need is to become a multiplanetary species with local governments, so we can get far enough away from statists like you who want a say in EVERYTHING.

Only a "government can fix anything" statist can look at the problems world governments cannot solve, often caused by government, and reason that its because the government wasn't bigger and more totalitarian.

**** that, save me from these idiots please Elon Musk! Get me off this rock!
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Pure libertarians can set up as a network of anarchist hermits on Ganymede? Works for me....
 
Mr Person said:
I think we're way to divided as a species for this to ever work. Maybe in a few hundred years, maybe in a thousand. Perhaps never.
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A few hundred years? We don't have even 50 without centralising production of global public goods.
 
shrubnose said:
The United Nations has been doing a great job,eh?

Just sayin.

Was the League of Nations able to stop WWII from happening?

Read some history books and wake up.

:peace
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It is a question of structure. The League of Nations was not strong enough and the UN though somewhat more robust is also too little robust. It isn't even conceived to manage or implementation international security. That is why we have such an uphill job ahead of us.
 
joG said:
Having tilted world trade and allocation of investment and production in their favor the US elite has brought about 1.5 billion people out of starvation and stark poverty into the global middle class. Not bad far a bunch of egoistic yingo Yankees. ;)
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At our own expense, with bills ever mounting and is ultimately unsustainable. You can't fix anyone else's house if yours is falling down.
 
... UNITED EARTH FOREVERRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRR

Look, I already came up with a cool official name: the Union of the Federate States of New Earth.
 
Fishking said:
At our own expense, with bills ever mounting and is ultimately unsustainable. You can't fix anyone else's house if yours is falling down.
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Well, no. Not at our expense. We just haven't been able to make the right changes enough quickly domestically and we have done things that have hindered our realising the benefits as well as we might have. But you cannot price your own labor out of the market and have the jobs.
 
Cisero said:
The U.S should not and will not compromise with Russia, China, Saudia Arabia, North Korea etc... A lot of countries have fundamentally different worldviews. A lot of these worldviews are absolutely incompatible with our western values.

Countries should keep their sovereignty & people should stop trying to impose their worldview on the country they just immigrated to.
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Joke, right?
 
I personally hope the world breaks up into 7 billion+ micronations. This is the only hope to solving the world problems.
 
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