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18 Times Obama Trashed America in Asia...[W:61]

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I'm doing NO SUCH THING....and I LOVE AMERICA....stop trying to say otherwise!

That's odd. The impression I get from your posts, seeing as you hate the Consitution, is that you pathologically hate America as well. You're not really convincing me otherwise
liberal Democrats are constantly mucking it up under the guise of doing good....it's a Fairy Tale!

Just about every liberal law or idea is a cluster ****.

Why do you hate the constituion and America?
 
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That's odd. The impression I get from your posts, seeing as you hate the Consitution, is that you pathologically hate America as well. You're not really convincing me otherwise

Why do you hate the constituion and America?

I'm not going to have any further discourse with you as long as you keep misrepresenting what I say.
 
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And I repeat for you as well...."There are a lot of people in this world that just need killing.....they have no dignity......that's just a feel good liberal term.....I doubt you have ever encountered any of them....I HAVE on numerous occasions!"

Those are the so called humans.... I'm referring to. I'm not talking about a class of people, so don't be putting words in my mouth.

The point here is that obama has no business saying what he said in a foreign country...it's obvious he loathes America.

Yeah, but that is not how it works, for example in Vietnam. There are loads of people who get killed who have loads of dignity. And it is not just a feel good term, slaughter of the innocents is never acceptable.

And who are we to decide who are the humans? Because that is a very subjective word in a lot of battles. Not in all battles, for examples with Al Qaida or Isis it is obvious who the humans are but in other conflicts that is often debatable.

And that dignity comment is not an international one, it can also be about people in the US who did not get treated with dignity. And not just by racists but also by liberals who did not tread the Vietnam veterans with the dignity that they should have received.

And I was not putting words in your mouth, I was giving examples of people in the US who were not treated with dignity.

And he can say things wherever he wants to say them if he has reasons to do so (even if you disagree with them) and just because he says things that you disagree with does not mean that he loathers America, that is just your bias IMO.
 
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Yeah, but that is not how it works, for example in Vietnam. There are loads of people who get killed who have loads of dignity. And it is not just a feel good term, slaughter of the innocents is never acceptable.

And who are we to decide who are the humans? Because that is a very subjective word in a lot of battles. Not in all battles, for examples with Al Qaida or Isis it is obvious who the humans are but in other conflicts that is often debatable.

And that dignity comment is not an international one, it can also be about people in the US who did not get treated with dignity. And not just by racists but also by liberals who did not tread the Vietnam veterans with the dignity that they should have received.

And I was not putting words in your mouth, I was giving examples of people in the US who were not treated with dignity.

And he can say things wherever he wants to say them if he has reasons to do so (even if you disagree with them) and just because he says things that you disagree with does not mean that he loathers America, that is just your bias IMO.

All reasonable points .............and on most of it, I agree. Thanks for reaching out with a respectful and thoughtful answer. :)
 
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1. True, or do you think we should have more children living in poverty...?
2. True, see 1.
3. True, many poor communities have underfunded schools
4. True, conservatives and republicans refuse to invest more in inner city education.
5. True, our public schools' history classes focus too much on American history and too little on geography.
6. True, we need to have a serious talk about BLM related issues even if we ultimately reject their proposals.
Absent, at the risk of putting you on bad terms with your fellows, I am going to separate you from the circle jerk pack of imbeciles on your side of the aisle that do not do what you just did, and I want to compliment you for it. I disagree with you, but at least you are not a lazy leftist. You at least had the wherewithal to take on the actual article and dispute it, point by point, even if not sufficiently well reasoned.

All the idiot one line slingers from your side are slinging their one liners because they have nothing else but an overabundance of partisan fecal matter to disburse,being so full of it, and have not one debate bone in their cumulative bodies.

But okay, here is where I disagree:

1.Poor folk, and their children, have existed throughout history. That we have "relatively" poor children in the USA is not a rarity... but some of the policies, especially liberal policies that more promote promiscuity and therefore inevitably create too many single parent households, well, that proliferates poverty among children.
2.With food stamps, subsidized breakfasts/lunches in public schools... and all the other child related programs in the USA, there absolutely should be no child, at least with parents that minimally care, that should be going in any way hungry.
3.Our wealth has nothing to do with how substandard our education is for anybody, including our poor communities. Our children are being ill served by the educational infrastructure that is not concerned with educating American children to be positive, pragmatic and prudent, but to be abnormally socially conscious and to blame others for their own, often self created, misfortune. Not to mention that teachers unions, and I am a former teacher, are not promoting the interests of children, but of teachers.
4.Yes I agree, we lack “the political will” to properly assist our inner cities by ridding them of liberal, Democrat leftists running the shows in almost all the inner cities that leave our kids not only without any direction, but impoverished and with a chip on their shoulders despite the fact that they live in relative luxury compared to most of the rest of the world, compared to all of history.
5.Knowledge of the rest of the world is one area we do need to improve upon, perhaps, if only to understand just how well we have it compared to most others. I can tell you, living here in Panama, what middle class families here in most of Panama live in, have as resources, etc... would be considered below poverty level in the USA.
6. Kapernack is a coddled baby having no real conception of how well he and the rest of America, even our relative “poor” have it. Get out, discover the world, understand what America has given American individuals and the rest of the world.


Yes, I could go on, but there are word/character limitations on the site... and my rebuttal should at least be sufficient to give perspective to comments by a president who should know a lot better and, despite his having a high degree of education, he not only comes off as but is, indeed, absolutely clueless.

This encapsulates a good reason a college education should be questioned in this day and age... if a supposedly educated, at the highest levels, president is this clueless about the realities of the world, perhaps we should consider disbanding our universities so as to preserve our posterity... or at least a lot of the frivolous coursework that has detrimentally insinuated itself where practical knowledge used to reign supreme.
 
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Really? It's not written in stone? How about Native Americans? Or African Americans? Or the treatment of women? Sorry but Obama was spot on with that comment.
By not written in stone I think Mickey means that anybody and everybody has the chance at becoming what they want to be... doesn't matter what tribe, what hood, what community you belong to, or formerly belonged to, if you willing to work hard and are trying to rid yourself of bad influences.

We have no caste system, no royalty here, anybody that is talented can pretty much write their ticket.
 
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Yeah, but that is not how it works, for example in Vietnam. There are loads of people who get killed who have loads of dignity. And it is not just a feel good term, slaughter of the innocents is never acceptable.

And who are we to decide who are the humans? Because that is a very subjective word in a lot of battles. Not in all battles, for examples with Al Qaida or Isis it is obvious who the humans are but in other conflicts that is often debatable.

And that dignity comment is not an international one, it can also be about people in the US who did not get treated with dignity. And not just by racists but also by liberals who did not tread the Vietnam veterans with the dignity that they should have received.

And I was not putting words in your mouth, I was giving examples of people in the US who were not treated with dignity.

And he can say things wherever he wants to say them if he has reasons to do so (even if you disagree with them) and just because he says things that you disagree with does not mean that he loathers America, that is just your bias IMO.

My apology, that should of course be "treat" not "tread", that is what you get when you are typing and watching Roast Battle at the same time.
 
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I'm not going to have any further discourse with you as long as you keep misrepresenting what I say.

I have misrepresente none of your positions or statements.

You don't believe in the rule of law, you actually hate it, based on innumerable posts of yours, and hence you hate the Consitutution.

It's an open and shut case.
 
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I have misrepresente none of your positions or statements.

You don't believe in the rule of law, you actually hate it, based on innumerable posts of yours, and hence you hate the Consitutution.

It's an open and shut case.

You are twisting his words attaching your meanings to make your case, and you know it. The case does not even exist.
 
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You are twisting his words attaching your meanings to make your case, and you know it. The case does not even exist.

Exactly. And I will have no further discourse with him on this or any other topic....he's a liar and wasting my time.

obama trashes America and these turds support what he says....making them equally turdish.
 
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By not written in stone I think Mickey means that anybody and everybody has the chance at becoming what they want to be... doesn't matter what tribe, what hood, what community you belong to, or formerly belonged to, if you willing to work hard and are trying to rid yourself of bad influences.

We have no caste system, no royalty here, anybody that is talented can pretty much write their ticket.

Except it doesn't actually happen, of course. There are rare exceptions, but the gap is widening daily.
 
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‘We’re a nation that was founded on the belief in the dignity of every human being; sometimes we’ve struggled to stay true to that belief’

What is it about traveling abroad that seems to encourage President Obama to unload all manner of grievances on the United States? For whatever reason, traveling abroad appears to help crystallize everything wrong he sees in America. During his recent trip to Cuba and Argentina, for example, we counted 18 separate times he talked down his employer, the United States of America.
His just-concluded trip to Asia was no different.
Here are 18 separate attacks he unloaded while in China and Laos:

https://news.grabien.com/story-montage-18-times-obama-trashed-america-asia


obama is the exact opposite of Ronald Reagan.

Yea at the end of Reagan's term he could barely remember his own name. Its amazing that wingnuts want to white wash the poor treatment of native Americans and Vietnam among other things. God forbid someone reminds us. Its like the holocaust, you shouldn't forget or history in general so you don't repeat your mistakes.
 
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Exactly. And I will have no further discourse with him on this or any other topic....he's a liar and wasting my time.

obama trashes America and these turds support what he says....making them equally turdish.

Your hatred of American and the rule of law makes me sad.
 
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You are twisting his words attaching your meanings to make your case, and you know it. The case does not even exist.

And yet you cannot cite which words that I've 'twisted'.

Yet more fail on your part. You must really enjoy The Fail.
 
Re: 18 Times Obama Trashed America in Asia...

‘We’re a nation that was founded on the belief in the dignity of every human being; sometimes we’ve struggled to stay true to that belief’

What is it about traveling abroad that seems to encourage President Obama to unload all manner of grievances on the United States? For whatever reason, traveling abroad appears to help crystallize everything wrong he sees in America. During his recent trip to Cuba and Argentina, for example, we counted 18 separate times he talked down his employer, the United States of America.
His just-concluded trip to Asia was no different.
Here are 18 separate attacks he unloaded while in China and Laos:

https://news.grabien.com/story-montage-18-times-obama-trashed-america-asia


obama is the exact opposite of Ronald Reagan.

Derogatory remarks by Americans about this country have always been considered more serious when made abroad, for example in treason cases. Mr. Obama shows just the disdain for things American I would expect from a leftist ideologue. He reminds me of Sean Penn and that dimwit, what's-her-name, in the Dixie Chicks. I think many collectivist dim bulbs imagine that expressing their shame about being American proves they are cosmopolitans. To me, it just proves they're dim and ignorant. This is the greatest nation the world, in all its history, has ever seen.
 
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And yet you cannot cite which words that I've 'twisted'.

Yet more fail on your part. You must really enjoy The Fail.

I haven't tried. Why would I? All your replies are about the same. The only thing that changes is who you try to belittle.
 
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I haven't tried. Why would I? All your replies are about the same. The only thing that changes is who you try to belittle.

Your inability to back up your own claims duly noted.
 
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By not written in stone I think Mickey means that anybody and everybody has the chance at becoming what they want to be... doesn't matter what tribe, what hood, what community you belong to, or formerly belonged to, if you willing to work hard and are trying to rid yourself of bad influences.

We have no caste system, no royalty here, anybody that is talented can pretty much write their ticket.

Exactly what I mean. Why is it that you and Coldjoint get it, but Leftists can't?

Except it doesn't actually happen, of course. There are rare exceptions, but the gap is widening daily.

Sure as hell does. It's happening every day in this country....hard work, good morals, love of country, respect for God and most humans.....is rewarding.
I think you just think, that all the dufus Lefties make up America...you are wrong.

Yea at the end of Reagan's term he could barely remember his own name. Its amazing that wingnuts want to white wash the poor treatment of native Americans and Vietnam among other things. God forbid someone reminds us. Its like the holocaust, you shouldn't forget or history in general so you don't repeat your mistakes.

The end of Ronnie's second term in office has no bearing on this. His first term, and most of his second, were good positive years for America....and the Left hated him for it. How dare he talk about all the good things in America, when their entire platform is hate, dissension, protests and disrespect of Family Values.

You know...the mantra of liberalism. Ronnie was proud of America and positive, as am I....obama hates America, bashes America, because he is an ideologue. We need to make America Great again and hillary Clinton IS NOT the answer!

Derogatory remarks by Americans about this country have always been considered more serious when made abroad, for example in treason cases. Mr. Obama shows just the disdain for things American I would expect from a leftist ideologue. He reminds me of Sean Penn and that dimwit, what's-her-name, in the Dixie Chicks. I think many collectivist dim bulbs imagine that expressing their shame about being American proves they are cosmopolitans. To me, it just proves they're dim and ignorant. This is the greatest nation the world, in all its history, has ever seen.

Absolutely! :thumbs::thumbs:
 
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Exactly what I mean. Why is it that you and Coldjoint get it, but Leftists can't?



Sure as hell does. It's happening every day in this country....hard work, good morals, love of country, respect for God and most humans.....is rewarding.
I think you just think, that all the dufus Lefties make up America...you are wrong.



The end of Ronnie's second term in office has no bearing on this. His first term, and most of his second, were good positive years for America....and the Left hated him for it. How dare he talk about all the good things in America, when their entire platform is hate, dissension, protests and disrespect of Family Values.

You know...the mantra of liberalism. Ronnie was proud of America and positive, as am I....obama hates America, bashes America, because he is an ideologue. We need to make America Great again and hillary Clinton IS NOT the answer!



Absolutely! :thumbs::thumbs:

From what I've seen, most leftists harbor a secret fear that people will see they are not nearly as smart or knowledgeable as they would like to imagine themselves. Being insecure about being seen as rubes who just fell off the hay wagon, they try desperately to pose as cosmopolitans. And running down their own country is part of that pose. If Pearl Harbor happened today, these sorry specimens would be condemning the U.S. for having provoked Japan into war, while trying to explain the Japanese side of things and calling for restraint.
 
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From what I've seen, most leftists harbor a secret fear that people will see they are not nearly as smart or knowledgeable as they would like to imagine themselves. Being insecure about being seen as rubes who just fell off the hay wagon, they try desperately to pose as cosmopolitans. And running down their own country is part of that pose. If Pearl Harbor happened today, these sorry specimens would be condemning the U.S. for having provoked Japan into war, while trying to explain the Japanese side of things and calling for restraint.

No doubt about it. :thumbs:
 
Re: 18 Times Obama Trashed America in Asia...

From what I've seen, most leftists harbor a secret fear that people will see they are not nearly as smart or knowledgeable as they would like to imagine themselves. Being insecure about being seen as rubes who just fell off the hay wagon, they try desperately to pose as cosmopolitans. And running down their own country is part of that pose. If Pearl Harbor happened today, these sorry specimens would be condemning the U.S. for having provoked Japan into war, while trying to explain the Japanese side of things and calling for restraint.

That is the worst hypothetical argument i've ever seen. You are assuming your own conclusion.
 
Re: 18 Times Obama Trashed America in Asia...

‘We’re a nation that was founded on the belief in the dignity of every human being; sometimes we’ve struggled to stay true to that belief’

What is it about traveling abroad that seems to encourage President Obama to unload all manner of grievances on the United States? For whatever reason, traveling abroad appears to help crystallize everything wrong he sees in America. During his recent trip to Cuba and Argentina, for example, we counted 18 separate times he talked down his employer, the United States of America.
His just-concluded trip to Asia was no different.
Here are 18 separate attacks he unloaded while in China and Laos:

https://news.grabien.com/story-montage-18-times-obama-trashed-america-asia


obama is the exact opposite of Ronald Reagan.

The first two...

'There are still too many poor children in the United States
Too many children in America are not getting enough to eat'


What the hell is wrong with saying these two? They are completely accurate.
 
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Except it doesn't actually happen, of course. There are rare exceptions, but the gap is widening daily.
Happens thousands of times each day. You know nothing about a gap, the gap is in the heads of people who do not know how to look around themselves and appreciate how much they have. The gap is in the heads of those, liberals, that want what others have that have generally either worked for it or had it handed down from someone else who earned it.

Haven't been back to Great Britain since 2000, so I don't know if you folks are fine there, but generally Americans have plenty, more than enough. And those of us who appreciate history, and the true needs many times mostly unmet during recorded history, understand the vast abundance distrubited far more equally worldwide now. Improved sanitation, improved longevity, improved medical technology, improved transportation, improved communications, improved... almost everything.

Hell, I live in the mountain countryside of a third world country, I know what real poverty looks like... but even then most here are fed now, there are clinics spread around here...most of my neighbors, even the indigenous here have cell phones though many are still riding horses or walking for transportation.

You libs are just complainers, always so willing to sacrifice established good on the altar of a perceived perfection.
 
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Exactly what I mean. Why is it that you and Coldjoint get it, but Leftists can't?
A partial explanation that I have found is that it is just lazy habit. They grew up that way, being fed this stuff in every manner possible, in school, on tv/in the movies, in the music, the newspapers and magazines... and so they just believe as do all their friends.

I liken it to cigarette addiction. Smokers hang together, there is a social circle established around taking a cigarette break together, friendships formed over a bad habit. If they break, or even try to break, the habit, they no longer have an excuse to take a break with those same friends who are going to be reinforcing that bad habit, blowing smoke in their faces... too easy to revert. Libs that start to get a clue must go cold turkey, give up those friendships of perhaps a lifetime as they would be, after they are found out, ridiculed, called a bigot, closet racist, etc... if they attempt to change their viewpoint to the more practical and reasonable.

Most are unwilling... or just too lazy. Why change when they can just sit back, say silly unsupportable things, sling mud and get like after like after like for saying pretty much nothing but irrational partisan stuff most the time.
 
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